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Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:09 pm
Hi all,
Having recently purchased a Nallo 2, I'm keen to head bush and test it out.
My main issue at this point is deciding the best and most economical (money and space-wise) way of packing it into my tramppack. The supplied bag feels very nice, but I feel it will not compress the tent to my required size (the size at this point is undetermined...just smaller than the sac it came in!)
Perhaps those who have field-tested several packing methods could shed light on my issue??
My main points of concern are:
* Metal wire which keeps front-end overhand getting warped
* Dry bag necessary for yellow inner only?
* Sea to Summit compression sacs - will they work fine, and what sizes.
Hope I've made this clear enough.
Thanks
Koz
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:25 pm
I would never use a compression pack for a tent because I believe letting your pack do that works better regardless if you pack it inside or outside (once it is strapped on)
BTW, when wet the fabric expands...
Franco
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 6:01 pm
I've been using a compression bag on my Nallo 2 ever since I got it two years ago and frankly I see no difference in performance or anything else.
The bag I've been using is the STS eVent waterproof (large).
I don't compress it down fully, only partially, but it's been fine.
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 8:03 pm
Hilleberg tent bags are oversized to allow you to easily get the tent back in the bag whatever the conditions. I wish others would do that too. I generally roll my tent around the poles rather than stuffing it into the tent bag as then I always know its orientation when I get it out in dodgy whether.
You don't have to compress the tent bag before putting it into your pack - just slide it into your pack vertically, and then pack other stuff around it. As you load your pack the tent will compress, and you can finish the job with the compression straps on the pack.
At least that's what I do.
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 9:10 pm
+2 to Franco and alanoutgear. With the Nallo 2 in its Hilleberg tent bag, the other stuff in the pack just naturally compresses it, and then pack's compression straps finish the job. And yes, when it's wet, having that generously sized Hilleberg tent bag makes for easy packing of the Nallo 2. All good, I think.
And who hasn't witnessed a tired and emotional camper trying to stuff a wet and unco-opertive tent into a slightly under-sized tent bag?
rucksack
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 9:49 pm
I agree. Just pack it in its bag, and let other stuff compress it.
On one occasion, I removed the inner, and packed it separately, and re erected the tent by putting fly up first, and reattaching inner. I think the hassle of re erecting it his way actually outweighed the issue of having a damp inner tent.
Now, I just give the tent a good shake, and roll it up. Similarly, putting it up, I give it a good shake,
Itch it, and towel off the floor.
A
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 9:59 pm
I agree with andrewa keeping the inner and outer together and doing some mopping up is the easiest
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 10:23 pm
Compression and packing the tent are two separate issues.
The best way to pack the Nallo tent (wet or otherwise) is to wrap it intact (outer and inner), never to separate the two.
Mon 10 Sep, 2012 10:36 pm
Should be receiving my Nallo 2 any day now so this thread is somewhat timely. I have watched the set-up video that Hilleberg made to compliment the instruction manual and I can not see myself deviating wildly from any of the advice in it. If you have not I suggest you watch it, lots of good info despite the daggy video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... iZpFAPNWtc+3 to the comments of Franco and alanoutgear. I have used compression sacks on tents in the past and did not find any real benefits.
Using the tents provided stuff-sack and relying on its position in a pack to compress it to an appropriate size does the job for me. Hopefully this applies to my Nallo as well! Oh and getting the inner wet has never negatively effected me as it is often easy to wipe down/dry out.
Tue 11 Sep, 2012 8:06 am
Nice video and great advice for all, not just Nallo or Hilleberg users.
Note the stuff sack in pocket bit,,,(yes they can fly about)
Taking down in reverse also means set up the windward end first so take down the windward end last... (just in case)
Note also the "to minimise condensation...". I have to laugh when people state their tent never gets condensation...
Franco
Tue 11 Sep, 2012 9:22 am
Thanks everyone for the great replies. It's good to know there are owners out there who care about their tent as much as I.
Perhaps a dry-run is in order this weekend.
Tue 11 Sep, 2012 6:32 pm
There are an awful lot of Nallos out there at the moment. Maybe I need to replace mine with something a little less common . . .
I usually separate the inner if the tent's very wet. It only takes a few minutes once you're used to it. But otherwise, Franco etc are right - roll it up, stuff it in and let everything else pack it down.
Tue 11 Sep, 2012 6:42 pm
Franco wrote:Note also the "to minimise condensation...". I have to laugh when people state their tent never gets condensation...
Franco
Not debating that it
could be a problem, but i've never had problems with condensation in my Nallo 3 GT in over 50 nights.
Tue 11 Sep, 2012 6:50 pm
I have had condensation on and in all of my tents but that has never been a problem...for me.
The problem is when some insist that "their" tent never get condensation...
The tent that never gets condensation anytime anywhere does not exist.
Franco
Tue 11 Sep, 2012 10:06 pm
My pack has a zipper for the bottom section, it is in here that I pack the tent, pegs, tyvek groundsheet & space blanket if we take that, the poles are rolled inside laminated map/s & strapped to the side of the pack, usually along with a camera tripod.
The tent is always packed in its original bag, never separate inner from outer, agree with the good shake if damp, and I usually fold it & roll it rather than stuff it in the bag any old how.
To fold,
Guy lines out,
Pegs at downwind end out,
Poles out,
Air out (flatten it down as best & quick as you can, usually achieved by leaving door fly open a bit so air can escape),
Pegs at other end out,
Two flap ends folded over tent (vestibule & other end),
Tent foldd into thirds lengthwise so it's now wide enough to fit into bag,
Fold ends to centre so they meet,
Fold in half,
Roll up squeezing the air out & stuff in bag.
Then jam it into the bottom of the pack as best you can, it will fill only the space it needs.
I should do a video of that so it makes more sense.
The wire above the door gets all bent, you just straighten it out as needed each time you set it up. I figure it's made to cope with this & haven't heard of one causing an issue yet, though I initially had concerns about it too.
I own two Nallo2's & a Nallo3, a great tent.
Wed 12 Sep, 2012 3:11 pm
Robert H wrote:Should be receiving my Nallo 2 any day now so this thread is somewhat timely. I have watched the set-up video that Hilleberg made to compliment the instruction manual and I can not see myself deviating wildly from any of the advice in it. If you have not I suggest you watch it, lots of good info despite the daggy video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... iZpFAPNWtc
wouldn't it be nice to have that flat, grassy ground at our campsites?
Wed 12 Sep, 2012 3:40 pm
rockpaper wrote:wouldn't it be nice to have that flat, grassy ground at our campsites?
Naturally.
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