alliecat wrote:Corvus,
Going through your complete gear list, these are the things I would leave behind:
Fresh wipes - if you've got sanitizer I think these are redundant
Towel and face washer - I use a bandana that I wear around my neck when walking.
Cheers,
Alliecat
corvus wrote:how do you go about getting dry after a swim or a real wash
In reality you have asked a loaded question that only you can answer
geoskid wrote:Corvus, Corvus, Corvus, - You just cant resist, if the pot is there you just have to stir it. You could leave all of your food at home bacause you are good at catching fish!
Tony wrote:Hi Corvus,
I would like to agree with Darren thatIn reality you have asked a loaded question that only you can answer
I know in the past you usually dismissed my suggestions to reduce the weight in our pack as ‘hopelessly inadequate’. I would like to try and make another suggestion to you and all others on this site that are interested in lightening their load that you read this book "Lightweight Backpacking & Camping: A Field Guide to Wilderness Hiking Equipment, Technique, and Style which is available at http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... 00070.html its cost is only US$25 + shipping
Tony
The Microlite is not exactly light any longer. Again look at the Tarptent Rainbow, a very similar design to the Microlite,( same pole, similar fabric for the fly) it just does not have a inner, 930 g inc 6x pegs. In this case going to a single wall tent will reduce the condensation build up .(more headroom and floor space as well)
corvus wrote: G'day Tony ,
Thanks for that information I really do look-into what you write and have been checking out LW gear for years ,we will most probably never agree but that is what makes us as individuals and helps to keep the forum lively
corvus.
Tony wrote:One of the most important tricks in reducing pack weight is not taking anything you will not use or any more of something that you need.
I take 13g of soap and with careful use it has lasted me 5 days.
="Son of a Beach
Do you mean 'anything you will not use' or 'anything you would not use in emergencies'?
Soap is 'frowned upon' by some environmentalists. I never take any soap or detergent. Maybe that's why my wife insists on me going straight to the shower when I arrive home for a walk. So I save 13g more than you on something - that's a first!
sthughes wrote:I was just thinking what Tony said (wow we agree ) I also thought about it just before I left for the walk too but just didn't have time or any containers - but I do agree and if I see some suitable containers will probably do it. I like the scissors and pliers on my pocket knife but can see Hi both are luxuries.
I use special biodegradable wilderness washing liquid stuff (useless at cutting through grease however) - that's ok isn't it? (If not sorry for killing the Mersey River creatures )
Waterproof Gaffa Tape 88
Franco wrote:Corvus
Not exactly. The Rainbow is fully bug proof and has a protected entry with a full mesh door. So you can still enjoy the view but keep the bugs out.
Have a good look at the set-up, including the "product update 08 pics. ( I have the original version)
Franco
Tony wrote:Hi Corvus
Thankyou for your reply, I agree that we most probably never agree.
These few suggestion are not aimed only at Corvus's gear but is information for any BW-T forum members who are thinking about reducing the weight in their pack.
One of the most important tricks in reducing pack weight is not taking anything you will not use or any more of something that you need.
CAUTION: THESE SUGGESTIONS WILL NOT REDUCE SAFETY IN ANY WAY.
eg SUNSCREEN 88g, do you need 88g of sunscreen, I take a small container that full weighs in at 13g, this amount has lasted more that three days with some left. You could not use 88g of sunscreen in under several weeks walking if 13g is too small use a slightly larger container but only take what you will need.
BUSMAN 80% Deet Repellent 79g, the same as above 13g
FRESH WIPES 53g, the same as above, I take 13g of soap and with careful use it has lasted me 5 days.
MULTITOOL 168g, I have carried the smallest Swiss army knife (21.1g) for 4 years now and I rarely use it, I do not know why you have the need for a 168g multi tool
This is a saving of 328g on these items alone.
Tony
Sunscreen, insect repellant, soap and knife around 60g total
So Tony we agree on two out of four
BUSHMAN 80% DEET in leech country (all of Tassie) you need to apply it liberally to gaiters and legs so IMHO 13g would just not hack it (also I would be concerned as to what sort of container I used ) eats plastics I'm told -so disagree
FRESH WIPES Only used for the most intimate of cleansing which soap nor sanitizer would perform -so disagree
Tony wrote:Hi Nik,="Son of a Beach
Do you mean 'anything you will not use' or 'anything you would not use in emergencies'?
What do you take in case of emergency, This is a debate in its self, many walkers take stuff just in case, I have walked with people that take three knifes and some that have taken three souces of light plus emergency candle. I think common sense should apply.
Soap is 'frowned upon' by some environmentalists. I never take any soap or detergent. Maybe that's why my wife insists on me going straight to the shower when I arrive home for a walk. So I save 13g more than you on something - that's a first!
What do you do for personal hygene after going to the toilet.
Like sthughes I use special wilderness wash and always wash away from streams using the minimal amount of water, often no soap contaminated water enters the ecosystem. And like you I keep my body washes to a minimium and I am also ushered straight into the shower when I get home.
Tony
Franco wrote:Corvus
Not exactly. The Rainbow is fully bug proof and has a protected entry with a full mesh door. So you can still enjoy the view but keep the bugs out.
Have a good look at the set-up, including the "product update 08 pics. ( I have the original version)
Franco
Tony wrote:Hi corvus,So Tony we agree on two out of four
I am stunned
So you are saying that you use 80g of deet everytime you go walking. There are larger containers than I use available. the DEET that I use comes in a plastic tube, many walkers in the US use these containers for DEET and I have not read any problems with them, time will tell if the plastic bottles that I use will last.
Have your gaiters suffered any damage from applying DEET to themFRESH WIPES Only used for the most intimate of cleansing which soap nor sanitizer would perform -so disagree
that is your personal preference, at least you know a lighter sanitation option is availabe.
Tony
Franco wrote:Hi Corvus
You know about assuming...
BTW, I hope that people don't take to suggestion as if someone told you that your dog is ugly, but you are either happy with what you have or you want to "lighten up" and sometime that really means lightening up in more ways than one.
Franco
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