Tarkine mining

[Hallu]

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[Strider]

You have to consider not only the devils, but their prey as well. Bring in a mine, and even though the devils could stay, the prey could simply hop or fly away

Except devils aren't predatory

[Hallu]

Yes they're scavengers but they do eat meat... So they do need preys killed by other predators, or dead by other means.

[sthughes]

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There is speculation earlier in the topic simply because the company is Indian owned, but no facts I have seen yet to say the workforce will be imported, nor specifically Indian. I personally doubt we will see many foreigners on this project, but like all major projects I'd be surprised if there weren't some. As there also regularly seem to be Australian working on major projects overseas.

I walk into the local McDonalds/KFC/whatever and despite it's ownership I don't see a single American working in them. Strange that? The only place I see Indians around here seems to be Doctors working at the locally owned clinic and service station attendants at the Australian owned United Service Stations. I imagine most (all?) of these are Australian's now and not 457s anyway.

Yes they're scavengers but they do eat meat... So they do need preys killed by other predators, or dead by other means.

Like mine trucks perhaps?

[stepbystep]

Sad - that is all.

[Hallu]

Read further back in this topic.

There is speculation earlier in the topic simply because the company is Indian owned, but no facts I have seen yet to say the workforce will be imported, nor specifically Indian. I personally doubt we will see many foreigners on this project, but like all major projects I'd be surprised if there weren't some. As there also regularly seem to be Australian working on major projects overseas.

I walk into the local McDonalds/KFC/whatever and despite it's ownership I don't see a single American working in them. Strange that? The only place I see Indians around here seems to be Doctors working at the locally owned clinic and service station attendants at the Australian owned United Service Stations. I imagine most (all?) of these are Australian's now and not 457s anyway.

Yes they're scavengers but they do eat meat... So they do need preys killed by other predators, or dead by other means.

Like mine trucks perhaps?

lol I work in a University and most research groups where the boss is Indian only employ Indian people, same with groups where the boss is Chinese. It's a disgusting practice really, especially when the employes can barely speak English and can't/won't interact with other people.

[sthughes]

lol I work in a University and most research groups where the boss is Indian only employ Indian people, same with groups where the boss is Chinese. It's a disgusting practice really, especially when the employes can barely speak English and can't/won't interact with other people.

Well that proves it then! This mine will definitely employ 100% Indians that don't speak English and won't interact with the rest of society. I mean if university research groups in Melbourne do it then obviously iron ore mines in remote northwest Tasmania must do it too

I know several people who work for one of the major contractors working on this project. Funnily they ALL seem very "Australian", speak english just fine and have lived in Tassie for years if not their whole lives. Guess they are the exception to the rule.

[Clusterpod]

BHP employs around 6000 in its iron ore unit. In total

How many jobs is it expected for Shree to create. How many will go to Tasmanians, and how long will they last?

Its all a stitch-up.

The infrastructure costs alone to keep an open-cut mine like this profitable are going to be mammoth.

I'm amazed, truly amazed that it is even being considered, let alone going ahead.

[Nuts]

Minimal employment seems a pretty dodgy point of argument. In reality a great string to a mining companies bow.. down the track when they want to expand or extend licence terms

[frenchy_84]

BHP employs around 6000 in its iron ore unit. In total

How many subbies are also employed by their operations though?

[Clusterpod]

BHP employs around 6000 in its iron ore unit. In total

How many subbies are also employed by their operations though?

Less and less every day. They are the first people to be shed.

And they are being shed in droves here in the west.

[Hallu]

Subbies are not jobs created by a single new mine, they work on several. Their job is not directly created by the creation of this one.

[RichB]

You pro mining people still dont understand do you. Shree minerals is an Indian company. They may employ a hanfull of Tasmanians if you are lucky. As they are an Indian company most of their profit will go back to India. There are alot of highly educated Indians on the 457 visa bandwagon who will get alot of these jobs..This mine will be the start of many, which will eventually destroy the Tarkine and contribute to our state icons extinction..What will you have to be proud of then..Maybe a handul of jobs if you are lucky..Wake up

This is my letter to the mercury above..

As for the Tassie Devil roadkill and their stupid fines...This mining company WILL have a early morning cleaning up of roadkill including that of the Devil so no one can see the extent..Out of sight out of mind..Its the human way..

Disgusting and i cannot believe how many PROUD Tasmanians approve of this decision..Oh never mind who are the brain dead Bulldogs playing this weekend..

[corvus]

You pro mining people still dont understand do you. Shree minerals is an Indian company. They may employ a hanfull of Tasmanians if you are lucky. As they are an Indian company most of their profit will go back to India. There are alot of highly educated Indians on the 457 visa bandwagon who will get alot of these jobs..This mine will be the start of many, which will eventually destroy the Tarkine and contribute to our state icons extinction..What will you have to be proud of then..Maybe a handul of jobs if you are lucky..Wake up.

Interesting post RichB !!
Cannot quite understand your logic as to ownership and employment yes Shree well may be Indian owned as is I believe the Copper Mines of Tas in Queenstown and in my many visits to Queenie over the past years I cannot remember seeing many Indians down there ,Simplot is an American owned company and cannot recall any Americans working there in my years of dealing with them, McCains is Canadian owned so ditto re Canadians.
Profits going overseas well I never !! naughty naughty! or has this not been going on since Federation ? perhaps you don't realise that most if not all of the goods required to run any of these businesses is sourced in Tasmania therefore supporting locals as are the day to day needs of the Employees( some of whom may well be Indian) at the Mines so what is your real beef please ? I hope it is not as Racially based as I read it
corvus

[Strider]

Subbies are not jobs created by a single new mine, they work on several. Their job is not directly created by the creation of this one.

It is if the current contractors don't have enough labour to service this mine as well as their other contracts.

[corvus]

Short edit time beat me as I needed to go for a wee RichB I know I am not supposed to ask but are you in full time employment ? I am retired and need Taxpayers to keep the "wolf from my door" as my Self Funded Super is running out fast .
corvus

[doogs]

I am retired and need Taxpayers to keep the "wolf from my door" as my Self Funded Super is running out fast .
corvus

It's alright Corvus, the proposed mines in the Tarkine are not the only ones that are likely to come to fruition over the next couple of years. There are a handful of mines likely to appear in The Midlands and Fingal valley too, all coal mines. I live in the area and would prefer them not to be in my backyard, but I would rather them here in an area which doesn't have the wide array ecological services that the Tarkine offers.
http://www.infomine.com/index/pr/PB284550.PDF

[corvus]

Thanks for that Doogs
corvus

[ILUVSWTAS]

You pro mining people still dont understand do you. Shree minerals is an Indian company. They may employ a hanfull of Tasmanians if you are lucky. As they are an Indian company most of their profit will go back to India. There are alot of highly educated Indians on the 457 visa bandwagon who will get alot of these jobs..This mine will be the start of many, which will eventually destroy the Tarkine and contribute to our state icons extinction..What will you have to be proud of then..Maybe a handul of jobs if you are lucky..Wake up

This is my letter to the mercury above..

As for the Tassie Devil roadkill and their stupid fines...This mining company WILL have a early morning cleaning up of roadkill including that of the Devil so no one can see the extent..Out of sight out of mind..Its the human way..

Disgusting and i cannot believe how many PROUD Tasmanians approve of this decision..Oh never mind who are the brain dead Bulldogs playing this weekend..

Are you suggesting Tasmanians as a whole feel this way? Or is your sarcastic tone intended for the internet based bushwalk.com folk?

[ILUVSWTAS]

Hahaha Corvus you are a legend

[gorby]

great decision and it should have been made months ago

[gayet]

let the watering down begin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-01/i ... rs/4857762

[MrWalker]

If any problems with the mine are really related to effects on devils then we need to abandon any attempt to get more tourists into Tasmania, particularly into wilderness areas.

[frenchy_84]

Not to mention they already have a prime case study. The greens are saying the approval of this mine with cause the extinction of the devil. Surely if this was the case the devil would already be extinct due to the savage river mine within the tarkine.

[photohiker]

From the ABC story:

"This is a mine with 65 jobs. This is not the economic saviour of Tasmania. This is the average McDonald's store."

Says it all. A lot of noise made over a small foreign employer impacting native flora and fauna, benefiting from unfettered access to Australian resources and which takes its profits overseas. History says the landscape will never recover.

[sthughes]

Since when do McDonalds stores pay millions in mining royalties to the state government?
Also I'm sure the 65 jobs at this mine will pay drastically more cash than Maccas $8 an hour or so to teens
etc. etc.

[photohiker]

The point is that this is a small employment opportunity with a big environment impact.

Industry appears to be saying that the business will be unprofitable if they have to operate responsibly.

Not a fan of maccas either, but they employ more local people per turnover and pay tax last time I checked.

[Clusterpod]

I'd be looking at selling up if I lived anywhere downwind from this mine or any of its transport routes all the way to whatever slap-dash port facilities they will MacGuyver up to export.

Have any of the people who are supporting this project lived near an iron-ore mine, or its transport and port facilities?

The impacts will spread as far and as wide as prevailing winds will take them.

Open Cut means a big, deep hole. Dust dust dust. And that effects everything as it will fundamentally changes surface soils.

For 80 jobs and mining royalties unaccountable damage will be created.

As for a million dollars down. Boo hoo. If that million wasn't chump-change in the first place, they wouldn't still be considering going ahead.

[MrWalker]

Open Cut means a big, deep hole. Dust dust dust.

I'd be amazed if dust was a problem in that area.
It rains there about 300 days a year.

[Strider]

Open Cut means a big, deep hole. Dust dust dust.

I'd be amazed if dust was a problem in that area.
It rains there about 300 days a year.

i was going to say the same thing. Some dry ground on the west coast would almost be welcomed!