The Ultimate cook setup for me

[DanShell]

My pot arrived today so postage wasn't too bad from China.

The Pot is 145g not 138g as advertised not that the few extra grams bother me. I also grabbed a titanium spork.

Now just waiting on the cooker

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[DanShell]

And my BRS-3000T arrived today as well.

It is a monster, boils very fast, great simmer control and at 25g its light.

Check it out on a 230g canister...........

[Orion]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

[DanShell]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

It is noisy when its turned up but unless your trying to bend steel I can't see why you would turn it up high!

I don't really have anything to compare it too, I am a Trangia user so this is my first gas cooker. But I think it appears to be reasonably well made. It doesn't have that cheap and nasty look or feel to it. It holds my 1100ml my solo pot ok and as I said it boils a cup of water in a silly fast amount of time.

And it was only $16 USD on Aliexpress

[Orion]

Thanks for the information. It sounds like it's worth it if it's only $16.

[Gadgetgeek]

For utensils, does anyone use anything besides whatever spork or spoon they take? I was thinking of trying to find a light pair of tongs, or a small plastic spatula/spoon. Any recommendations?

[corvus]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

G'day Orion,
I also have a BRS 3000t as part of my collection and it is well made and noise wise on par with several other quality can top burners incuding the 45g FMS-300T ,48gFMS 116T,85g MSR Pocket Rocket and 89g Optimus Crux, Optimus Crux and FMS116T being the quietest (similar burner heads) all tested in a strong wind .
Looking forward to testing it on the track (will only ever be back up) to my FMS100T.

Last edited by corvus on Thu 19 Feb, 2015 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[simonm]

Looks good Dan, superlight. I might have to explore the options of a gas stove.

[simonm]

Not sure if this has been posted but Roger has put up a review of the BRS-3000T on BPL: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... OWzGvmUeSo

[corvus]

Check it out here.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/BRS-3000 ... 94078.html

[DanShell]

Not sure if this has been posted but Roger has put up a review of the BRS-3000T on BPL: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... OWzGvmUeSo

Does it get his approval? I'm not a paid member of bpl so I can't read the article.

[simonm]

Thanks Corvus - I just ordered one. You may have started me on a new addiction now.

Dan - yep basically says it is a decent stove. Take care of aluminium threads and a couple of other smaller potential issues but nothing to worry about.

[stry]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

A 700mil pot that weighs 36grams ????? Even without a lid that seems like chocolate wrappers or unobtainium

[corvus]

Not sure if this has been posted but Roger has put up a review of the BRS-3000T on BPL: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... OWzGvmUeSo

For the price of the article(that I have not read) what do you get that is so different from my free review bearing in mind I am just an ordinary "punter" with no axe to grind, I have opinions about stoves because I collect them and I am happy to share my experiences about them at no cost with non scientific answer

[corvus]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

Orion a wee typo eh!!

[Orion]

Not a typo. I use one of the old Heineken 71cl cans with the top carefully cut off (and the beer consumed). The top is quite nice as a lid but I often substitute a piece of foil since it is lighter. The 36g also includes a little more foil to use as a windscreen. But it doesn't include the weight of the empty canister or matches. Or the stove.



What I really wish for is a canister that is a lot lighter. Thinner walled aluminum would work for me. Even plastic would be strong enough but then you'd need a remote stove.

[stry]

The possibility of a beer can did cross my mind, but I thought, Naa, it would crush in normal packing.

Obviously you have made it work. Well done, albeit a little fragile for my taste

[perfectlydark]

How does the can hold up with heat applied to it? Thats not a normal aluminium can right?

[Orion]

It's thicker material than a small soda or beer can.

One thing about food and beverage cans is that they are lined with some sort of food grade plastic. You could argue that it isn't a good idea to boil water in a container lined like that. I wouldn't do it on a regular basis, at least not without learning more. But for the occasional use I put mine to I'm not worried. It used to be that you could buy a metho Caldera Cone stove setup that came with a Heineken can as the pot. That doesn't prove it's safe but hopefully they at least gave it some thought before marketing it. Or maybe they somehow removed the lining. Does anybody know?

I've always thought that there would be a market for ultralight cookware. But instead it's either heavy steel or expensive (and not that light) titanium. Lightweight, thin-walled aluminum is more likely to get dented over time but so what? it's inexpensive and recyclable. Unfortunately nobody sells anything like that.

[perfectlydark]

Its a very good Idea i think your right about the thin coating inside. Not sure what effect it would have on your water

[Gadgetgeek]

to the best of my understanding, aluminum cans are unlined in general. Tin cans (like soup cans) can be unlined, zinc galvanized or plastic coated depending on the contents. So acidic stuff like tomatoes are going to be in a coated can. As far as I know, the liner is visible, so it would be easy to tell. The other way to tell would be to apply some direct fire to it, and see if there are changes (taking care not to melt the can itself)

My understanding as to the use of the hieneken cans, was that the shape provided some extra structure over a normal straight-wall can, once the lid is cut off.

[Orion]

to the best of my understanding, aluminum cans are unlined in general. Tin cans (like soup cans) can be unlined, zinc galvanized or plastic coated depending on the contents. So acidic stuff like tomatoes are going to be in a coated can. As far as I know, the liner is visible, so it would be easy to tell. The other way to tell would be to apply some direct fire to it, and see if there are changes (taking care not to melt the can itself)

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. For one thing the whole BPA scare has resulted in focus on the fact that beverage can linings continue to contain that chemical. Here are some details about the lining. The web site for the Coca Cola company also discusses this in their FAQ. I personally can't see the lining inside a coke can. But something non-metallic can be scraped off with a knife.

Sodas and beer are both pretty acidic. It seems like a lining would be a really good idea.

BPA aside, the linings are food safe epoxy based materials. But what happens when you heat them? Hmmm.

My understanding as to the use of the hieneken cans, was that the shape provided some extra structure over a normal straight-wall can, once the lid is cut off.

Well that, sure, but also because they are big enough, just barely, to act as a pot.

The diameter/height aspect of a can is all wrong though. It's not efficient for heating on the stove and it's awkward to clean if used for anything other than boiling water. So I still dream of an ultralight aluminum pot.

[Bubbalouie]

And my BRS-3000T arrived today as well.

It is a monster, boils very fast, great simmer control and at 25g its light.

Check it out on a 230g canister...........

This makes me think a user reviews section could be a good idea.

The purpose of such a section is for unaffiliated members to post reviews of the gear they have & use. The title of each review being the exact product name. Granted the internet is full of reviews but I can't help but think BWA members might be able to lend a local perspective and respond to questions in a way that other sites might not afford their users.

[DanShell]

And my BRS-3000T arrived today as well.

It is a monster, boils very fast, great simmer control and at 25g its light.

Check it out on a 230g canister...........

This makes me think a user reviews section could be a good idea.

The purpose of such a section is for unaffiliated members to post reviews of the gear they have & use. The title of each review being the exact product name. Granted the internet is full of reviews but I can't help but think BWA members might be able to lend a local perspective and respond to questions in a way that other sites might not afford their users.

I agree 100%. There is a lot of information on this site. Nearly every item I have ever researched has been mentioned in some capacity on here but at times it is difficult sifting through all the info to get what I have needed.

So a review section with the the item as the title would be perfect and add a lot of value to BWA in general.

[corvus]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

Orion a wee typo eh!!

To be fair that is not a pot as we know it just a recycled beer can and with all due respects a bit of an eight day fondling on your behalf to even promote it on this non ULW forum ,very long bow to expect us Forumites to, no 1 to own one of those beer cans and no 2 even contemplate their use as a cooking pot .

[Strider]

That's a noisy stove! But the 25g weight is attractive to gram counters like myself.
What do you think of it? Is it a good stove?

With that stove my solo boil-only canister setup with 700ml pot would be only 61g.
But that's not counting the heavy empty canister of course.

Orion a wee typo eh!!

To be fair that is not a pot as we know it just a recycled beer can and with all due respects a bit of an eight day fondling on your behalf to even promote it on this non ULW forum ,very long bow to expect us Forumites to, no 1 to own one of those beer cans and no 2 even contemplate their use as a cooking pot .

These beer cans are very well know for their use as UL pots, corvus. As was mentioned earlier, some stove manufacturers even spec their stoves to fit and sell it alongside their own product.

[Orion]

I didn't come up with the idea. I just wanted something light and I couldn't find a commercial product that came close. What I almost bought was one of those 700ml titanium mugs that people use as pots. But they're a lot heavier. I even coated the rim of the first Heineken can I used with silicone so I could drink hot liquids straight out of it. It's funny that these cans are the same basic shape as a Jetboil "pot", tall and narrow.

A friend of a friend used to use pie tins from the supermarket for frying fish in the mountains, as a way to save weight over a big heavy frying pan.

Heineken stopped making those cans some time ago. By accident I found a shop that was still carrying them and bought a bunch. I sent a couple of them to Bluegum Mic. I wonder if she uses them anymore? They aren't the greatest pot, just really light.

Unfortunately the beer isn't very good.
Better than VB though.

[Empty]

Unfortunately the beer isn't very good.
Better than VB though.

which is in turn better Budweiser and all other Yankee beers

[Strider]

Unfortunately the beer isn't very good.
Better than VB though.

which is in turn better Budweiser and all other Yankee beers

Yankee "beer"

[Gadgetgeek]

Orion, not the first time, and won't be the last that I'm mistaken. probably comes from eating soup heated in cans on a fire!