A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Fri 10 Jun, 2016 6:46 pm

I have what I assume is a sample tube of toothpaste from the dentist and I think I can get more. It has 20 grams of toothpaste and weighs in at 24 grams. Think this will work for me on the next trip at least.

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Sat 11 Jun, 2016 1:04 am

GPSGuided wrote:The evidence lies in the pathophysiology of dental/peridental diseases. There's solid recognition that dental and gingival diseases with plaque at and below the gum line, along with associated bacterial load in those pocket locations cause the most severe short and long term damage to oral health....

GPSGuided, that's not evidence. That's just an assertion and a vague hypothesis with an appeal to "common sense".

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Mon 25 Jul, 2016 6:53 pm

icefest wrote:
Gadgetgeek wrote:I do the lush tabs. Not for everyone and foamy, but they do get the job done, at least you can go to sleep without furry teeth. Also from an LNT perspective, no triclosan is a bonus as far as I care. Might not matter in the grand scheme, but its worth considering.

I was really excited reading the page, but still no fluoride :(

That's a good thing mate.Do your research.A few day's out in the bush without it isn't going to make your teeth rot.

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Mon 25 Jul, 2016 7:41 pm

I'm guessing that no one in this thread was far sighted enough to acquire a stash of Ipana Tooth Powder when it was available :lol:

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Mon 25 Jul, 2016 7:47 pm

Xylitol chewing gum is a great toothpaste substitute. Good for your teeth, and gives a nice mouthfeel too. It can be hard to get, although some Asian grocers have it. Possibly there are other non-sucrose chewing gums that also work.

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Sat 27 Aug, 2016 6:13 pm

Hello,

I have used Thai tooth powder and mishwak. I also know about neem.

(1) Thai tooth powder

(1a) Viset-Niyom brand tooth powder, packet weighs 40 grams and contains;
calcium carbonate
sodium chloride
borneol
menthol and fragrance

Here's a picture on amazon;

https://www.amazon.com/Viset-Niyom-Orig ... B007NUXDUE

(1b) Thipniyom herbal tooth powder packet weighs 40 grams and contains;
calcium carbonate
ammonium alum
borneol flakes
sodium chloride
menthol
crystal camphor
clove oil
peppermint oil
TR-1 compound
myrrh oil
sage oil
camomile blue oil

Here's an online reference;

https://thai-voyage.com/en/uhod/za-polo ... 00008.html

I've found these powders useable in the field.
I don't carry a whole packet.
For each time I expect to brush my teeth (about twice a day) I take out enough to cover my index fingertip; wrap quantities in folded strips of aluminium foil.
It's very small and light.

(2) Mishwak is a stick from a tree; the following reference is helpful.

https://www.mcri.edu.au/users/dr-elisha ... alth-issue

Another good reference

http://earthdrifter.com/blog/2013/05/22 ... the-mouth/

I saw it used in the Middle East.

I used it; no drama. Just a stick. No pain to use.

Although I haven't bought it in Australia, I have noticed that some online vendors sell it.

If you live in Melbourne, I think it would be possible to find Mishwak around Brunswick or Coburg where Arab traders operate. I would try one of the Arab grocery shops. It should be cheap.

(3) Neem: I've never used it but have seen it used in India where it was popular.

Here's a reference;

http://www.fishpond.com.au/Health/Neem- ... vQodYFYANA

The above options are alternatives to standard toothpaste. They are not the same, but forum member might like to try them as lightweight options.

All the best,

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Sun 10 Jul, 2022 8:57 am

Toothpaste tablets...

Convenient, lightweight, take what you need for the length of your trip, choice of flavours, fluoride or fluoride free varieties...crush, brush & rinse. 8)
Combine with a compostable/biodegradable dental floss for those hard to get areas.

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Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Sat 23 Jul, 2022 8:35 pm

Which brand of tablets are pictured?

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Sat 23 Jul, 2022 10:01 pm

Stamina wrote:Which brand of tablets are pictured?


There's quite a few choices nowadays. I've tried 2 for bushwalking.
Chubby toothpaste tablet is made by Lush, 4 different funky flavours to choose from...fluoride free.

Thinner tablet is made by Dr Robb, peppermint flavour + fluoride. Preferred only because it produces a little less froth.

Both crush & turn into a paste easily.

Re: Ultralight toothpaste

Sun 07 Apr, 2024 7:05 am

A couple of tablet cons to watch out for...moisture (humidity) in their container can soften/dissolve them into a paste, also jiggling loose within a container will turn them into a powder during a longer walk.

Still usable, just messy.
A small sachet absorber or cottonwool to fix.
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