I’m fairly sure its not perspiration.
Turfa wrote: any rain gear durable and waterproof enough to keep you dry for long periods in the bush is going to be so hot ad heavy when actively walking that you will get soaked from perspiration anyway.
Turfa wrote:I have always worked on the principle that as long as I am warm, being wet doesn't really matter (and is mostly unavoidable anyway if you are out in the rain for long enough). So I choose my base and middle layers so that they will keep me warm regardless of how wet I am.
For me, rain gear is more about keeping the wind out to reduce wind chill when I am wet.
wildwanderer wrote:I use my jackets off track, so they are exposed to dirt and brushing against foilage.
Aardvark wrote: I would rarely wear my jacket whilst walking. It depends on the wind. Water vapour rises even quicker without the jacket.
Aardvark wrote: It starts to justify just having a basic non membrane type jacket or simply an umbrella. In reality not many people are doing adventures that require more.
Turfa wrote:I have always worked on the principle that as long as I am warm, being wet doesn't really matter (and is mostly unavoidable anyway if you are out in the rain for long enough). So I choose my base and middle layers so that they will keep me warm regardless of how wet I am.
For me, rain gear is more about keeping the wind out to reduce wind chill when I am wet.
Zapruda wrote:I’m fairly sure its not perspiration.
It probably is. What makes you think It isn't? Where is it leaking?
It could also be condensation forming inside the jacket depending on conditions.
Lamont wrote:If you haven't decided where it starts check next time and that should at least get you some ideas. When you say it leaks and you look at the outside of the jacket can you see wet patches?
Aardvark wrote:A 3 layer jacket will be more durable against foliage than a 2.5 layer jacket but then the needle like vegetation in the australian bush will still pierce the jacket and show no indication of it to the naked eye. The holes made in the membrane will be larger than the pores in the membrane and therefore compromise breathability and waterproofness. A manufacturer will not warranty that because it is regarded as wear and tear.
Turfa wrote:I have always worked on the principle that as long as I am warm, being wet doesn't really matter (and is mostly unavoidable anyway if you are out in the rain for long enough). So I choose my base and middle layers so that they will keep me warm regardless of how wet I am.
wildwanderer wrote:Turfa wrote:I have always worked on the principle that as long as I am warm, being wet doesn't really matter (and is mostly unavoidable anyway if you are out in the rain for long enough). So I choose my base and middle layers so that they will keep me warm regardless of how wet I am.
This method works for me if Im moving at a steady pace that generates body heat but its a problem if I need to move slowly due to scrub etc
Then im cold and wet.
What base/middle layers are you wearing that stay warm when wet? (when not moving quickly). Ive tried merino baselayers/overshirt but im still cold.
Lamont wrote:What jacket are you wearing? Many companies tout the perfect WPB jacket, but is there such a thing? Event jackets are notorious for not holding DWR applications once worn a few times. Uniqlo touts a WPB jacket- doesn't every one now. Thus, most so called rain coats are duds. I think a "Rain Jacket" is not a specialist thermal item but it becomes one to a degree when it only wets on the inside, if at all. Avoiding the Coolgardie effect. Of course once you stop you must put on extra clothes to maintain warmth. You should have on as "little as possible" -obviously depends on the conditions to keep warm enough (the Pata LW t-shirt/ Hoody thermal weight under a good rain jacket) when active-to reduce over heating perhaps, to about 1-2 degrees. Just some thoughts.
Lamont wrote:It should say water resistant, not waterproof-it's just spin, your experience shows that, and it is only resistant while the DWR is active/fresh. "A durable water repellent (DWR) finish applied to the face fabric". To be waterproof you need to see an impregnated WP fabric a la Columbia Outdry Ex Featherweight- it is Waterproof/Breathable or another PU type jacket again -Lightheartgear -sil/PU jacket impregnated in to the fabric. They will need NO DWR treatment -ever, until the fabric breaks down.
wildwanderer wrote:Seriously considering the non breathable but actually waterproof!
Warin wrote:I'm thinking about a 'head umbrella' - small umbrellas that go to a head band .. so you have your hands free.
Diameters around 55cm. Good for sun rain and snow (without wind). About $5.
That would keep the upper bits drier and sun free.
Umm search on 'Umbrella Headwear'?
wildwanderer wrote:Warin wrote:I'm thinking about a 'head umbrella' - small umbrellas that go to a head band .. so you have your hands free.
Diameters around 55cm. Good for sun rain and snow (without wind). About $5.
That would keep the upper bits drier and sun free.
Umm search on 'Umbrella Headwear'?
I know what I'l be wearing this bushwalking season!
Warin wrote:Plastic ponchos off fleebay are $1... at that price .. disposable. Yes they will easily puncture and rip. But $1.
wayno wrote:get rain jackets with physically opening vents,
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