Tekker76 wrote: Being recently returned to the region thought I would look into walking a section of the great dividing range in NP.
Tekker76 wrote: I called all the relevant authorities and they all said " but no one walks Bellenden Kerr"
Aardvark wrote:Bellenden Kerr also caught my attention when i was up there last. Once again i only had the weekend and did the usual Walsh's Pyramid and Bartle Frere. Paid a brief visit to the trail from Babinda Boulders to the Mulgrave river.
I would expect the best source of information would be the landowners. If i cut a trail from my land, even part way, i wouldn't necessarily tell National Parks.
Maybe there is something on a local bushwalking club website.
From my experience up there, i wouldn't expect anything from the sources you've named.
I would expect anything near the cable line running up from the east would be riddled with regrowth. The long ridge from the north over Mt.Sophia is likely to have been travelled in the past by some. It is so obvious and as a result is also likley to have vegetation problems. I'd love to know about that one. Isn't the whole area likely to be riddled with Lawyer vine? Those looking for gold in the past would have covered every square inch.
tomh wrote:A document that may help is the 'Remote bushwalking advice and notification' guide from QPW
https://www.npsr.qld.gov.au/policies/pdf/pg-pk-vm-remote-bushwalking-advice-notification.pdf
which assists
'Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service (QPWS) staff in consistently managing visitors who bushwalk in remote locations. (my emphasis) Remote bushwalking locations include class 5 and 6 tracks and off-track areas'
Note there is no requirement to obtain permissions - the policy/procedure form provided is for safety reasons only.
Neo wrote:In NSW I've found POM (Plan of Management) documents online for the parks and reserves I've looked into. These are PDF and usually have a section related to use of the area. Forget the wording but somewhere in there under use/activities is written 'self-reliant camping permitted' ie you have some idea, a map and water! Or reserves may state it's not permitted.
Tekker76 wrote:Great one mate, thats one I have been looking to add to the collection. Meston was no fool, he hit it in winter.
trekker76 wrote:Well I met with the senior ranger today. After some discussion the verdict is while they have safety concerns, there is no problem walking and camping light in the NP here. They wanted a courtesy email of details of any walks I planned to do. Again no one here really bothers doing this, hence the surprised looks when I started asking the questions. Its only as I planned to post treks online I wanted a solid opinion- dont want to get pinged if someone decided a tent in a particular park was illegal. Anyway time to start planning some treks I can talk about.
Thanks again for the comments above btw.
misty_d wrote:trekker76 wrote:Well I met with the senior ranger today. After some discussion the verdict is while they have safety concerns, there is no problem walking and camping light in the NP here. They wanted a courtesy email of details of any walks I planned to do. Again no one here really bothers doing this, hence the surprised looks when I started asking the questions. Its only as I planned to post treks online I wanted a solid opinion- dont want to get pinged if someone decided a tent in a particular park was illegal. Anyway time to start planning some treks I can talk about.
Thanks again for the comments above btw.
Whereabouts online did you plan on posting trek notes? And for what purpose?
There’s 3 reasons I can think of that Bellenden access is not promoted anywhere.
1. There is some serious infrastructure up there the govt. most likely wants to keep hordes of civilians away from.
2. There is a lot of scientific research going up up there due to its isolation and subsequent environmental significance and value.
3. Keeping people away from there stops info from spreading virally online that influences more people to trample up there. Potentially people that have no regard for No’s 1 & 2.
I assume you’ve been up Bartle? See how busy it is and the impact that has? (Track and vegetation degradation, human waste, vandalism, impacts on wild life, rubbish, Ill prepared individuals that chew up resources getting rescued)
Cheers
- Misty
trekker76 wrote:misty_d wrote:trekker76 wrote:Well I met with the senior ranger today. After some discussion the verdict is while they have safety concerns, there is no problem walking and camping light in the NP here. They wanted a courtesy email of details of any walks I planned to do. Again no one here really bothers doing this, hence the surprised looks when I started asking the questions. Its only as I planned to post treks online I wanted a solid opinion- dont want to get pinged if someone decided a tent in a particular park was illegal. Anyway time to start planning some treks I can talk about.
Thanks again for the comments above btw.
Whereabouts online did you plan on posting trek notes? And for what purpose?
There’s 3 reasons I can think of that Bellenden access is not promoted anywhere.
1. There is some serious infrastructure up there the govt. most likely wants to keep hordes of civilians away from.
2. There is a lot of scientific research going up up there due to its isolation and subsequent environmental significance and value.
3. Keeping people away from there stops info from spreading virally online that influences more people to trample up there. Potentially people that have no regard for No’s 1 & 2.
I assume you’ve been up Bartle? See how busy it is and the impact that has? (Track and vegetation degradation, human waste, vandalism, impacts on wild life, rubbish, Ill prepared individuals that chew up resources getting rescued)
Cheers
- Misty
As to where I aimed to post trekking notes, why here of course.
As to what purpose, to share trekking notes. There is a sub forum for this.
As to the rest of your post, its not about lack of promotion or protecting secret government compounds. Bellenden ker is almost impassble, because like the rest of the great dividing range and hills here, tropical rainforest is almost impassable.
Without cutting a trail 99% of people won't take it on, there is no danger of people running amok all over scrub this heavy. Even locals don't venture into it for fun.
I was not lobbying for tracks anyway, so bartle frere has no relevance to the discussion. For the record I don't think visitors do that much damage to that mountain anyway. And yes I live in the region btw.
The thread was about any permits needed for those very few of us( and I am talking about 1 in a million) who want to pick through the toughest vegetation on earth by hand. And as it turns out the parks are okay with it, they were just suprised anyone wants to do it. I suggest you read the whole thread next time, these points were covered several times already.
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