Big Agnes Fly Creek HV 1 & 2 Carbon 450g & 510g Dyneema

[Al M]

Big Agnes latest Dyneema tents seem to be keeping up with other makes with very light weight Dyneema tents and using its own poles https://www.bigagnes.com/Fly-Creek-HV-2-Carbon

US $800 one person and $850 two person.

May be better option for those not using hiking poles and save further weight and those prefer having an inner against condensation drips from wind gusts.

Other models like the BA Scout 2 Carbon Dyneema using hiking poles weigh even less at 312g two person at US $700.

Some web chatter saying BA is using lighter and thinner Dyneema than others to gain weight advantage at risk of durability.

Anyone bought them yet?

Details here https://www.bigagnes.com/Fly-Creek-HV-2-Carbon

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[wildwanderer]

Some web chatter saying BA is using lighter and thinner Dyneema than others to gain weight advantage at risk of durability.

Id say less durability is a safe bet. Even the marketing on their website makes a special reference to extra care required with these tents.

Although extremely strong for their weight, these tents are not indestructible and require careful use to decrease the possibility of damage. Special care during setup and extended trips is important as rough handling, long-term abrasion, exposure to sharp objects or rocky campsite selection may result in fabric punctures and tears. We highly recommend using tent footprints with these tents to improve durability. Self-adhesive repair patches are included in the event that repairs must be made on the trail.

Would probably be ok if your solo and have time for lesuirely camp set up/pull downs. However if your with a group or on a demanding timetable, its often the case that a fast setup means you miss clearing a few ground twigs or need to rapidly shake/stuff the tent upon departure. All things that will increase wear and tear.

[Franco]

"May be better option for those not using hiking poles and save further weight and those prefer having an inner against condensation drips from wind gusts"
There are LW carbon poles available for the tents designed to use trekking poles but yes that does weight and cost.
However as for the double wall bit, there are already DCF options, like the Tarptent SS Li :

You can choose mesh or solid inner (or get both)

[bobcrusader]

Who sells Tarptent in Oz?

[Franco]

Who sells Tarptent in Oz?

Only direct sales from Nevada City , USA.
I was not aware that BA tents are sold retail here now.

[Al M]

The Tarptent SS Li Dyneema two person with inner and poles is US $709 and 886g, performs well in wind from reports, thicker Dyneema, looks roomier with mor entry storage. Ground sheet should still be used but may need it less. Should be ahead if conditions are more demanding and one camps more frequently.

The BA Fly Creek Carbon Dyneema two person is US $849 and significantly lighter at 514g, only comes with inner and poles, thinner material, is very average to poor (IMO) in wind, less entry storage and internal space, but is free standing inner. Definately needs a ground sheet due to thinner Dyneema. Should be ahead if the conditions are less demanding and one does not camp as much.

374g in favour of the BA is not insignificant

I have the older version of the BA FC UL2 at 879g and AUD $549 is the same weight as the Tarptent SS Li, but that’s about where it ends. The BA is not good in wind, the front entry vestibule doesnt keep rain out when jumping out for a quick pee in the bushes etc. The newer BA FC seem to have a better front vestibule entry cover so looks the rain issue would be resolved now.