Dogs on the Southern Ranges (in the SW WHA)

[ollster]

Apparently the dog was no trouble at all and very well behaved

Interesting. Maybe these dogs were infact guide dogs for the stupid?

[Azza]

Just to throw in my 0.02 $ worth... About two or three weeks ago, the first (to my knowledge) blind person walked the Overland track. Guided with CradleHuts and he also brought a guide dog. Apparently the dog was no trouble at all and very well behaved - admittedly Overland track and the scrub to Kameruka moraine are two different pairs of shoes and the dog didn't have to carry anything either. He did have his own personalised doggie-waterbottle though.

yea.. thats probably fair enough.. I think the main problem I had with the dogs was the fact they'd just swum and washed with their owners in the only viable water source on that part of the range and were very selfish and arrogant about it. - Okay so where do we get our water from? It was a 30+ degree day, but I don't think that is justification for contaminating the only available water source for several hours walk either direction. It would be a nightmare if someone got sick.
It would also be shame to end up like so many other parts of the world where you can't drink the water without treatment.

[ollster]

It would also be shame to end up like so many other parts of the world where you can't drink the water without treatment.

I drank it straight, no boiling. It was woofy, with a touch of paws.

PS: aljscott, your pic looks too much like mine. You'll need to change it.

[stepbystep]

PS: aljscott, your pic looks too much like mine. You'll need to change it.

Nah his is better, you need a better camera

[ollster]

PS: aljscott, your pic looks too much like mine. You'll need to change it.

Nah his is better, you need a better camera

Yeah, I LOLed...

[Nuts]

Just to throw in my 0.02 $ worth... About two or three weeks ago, the first (to my knowledge) blind person walked the Overland track. Guided with CradleHuts and he also brought a guide dog.

Just for the record, Eric Sargent (who was offered 'Cradle Huts' though passed on principle...) guided the first blind person through the Overland Track (to my knowledge),(late eighties?, no dog, no huts).

[Drifting]

Just to throw in my 0.02 $ worth... About two or three weeks ago, the first (to my knowledge) blind person walked the Overland track. Guided with CradleHuts and he also brought a guide dog.

Just for the record, Eric Sargent (who was offered 'Cradle Huts' though passed on principle...) guided the first blind person through the Overland Track (late eighties, no dog, no huts).

COOL! What an experience for both people

[geoskid]

I drank it straight, no boiling. It was woofy, with a touch of paws.

Eeww, you would'nt know what had been in there even before the dogs, washing the crusty bits off, perhaps a cockateil, or even Old Macdonald himself! I think I will treat from now on if its not running!

[ollster]

I think I will treat from now on if its not running!

Nah, a bit of bacteria is good for you!

[tomberli]

Just to throw in my 0.02 $ worth... About two or three weeks ago, the first (to my knowledge) blind person walked the Overland track. Guided with CradleHuts and he also brought a guide dog.

Just for the record, Eric Sargent (who was offered 'Cradle Huts' though passed on principle...) guided the first blind person through the Overland Track (late eighties, no dog, no huts).

COOL! What an experience for both people

That is cool actually. Good old Eric - sometimes I wish I had been around back in the good old days when bushwalkers were real men

EDIT: and women of course, before I get in trouble...

[greyim]

It's a problem, but don't wallabies have giardia? and they crap all over the place

[Drifting]

[quote="tomberli
That is cool actually. Good old Eric - sometimes I wish I had been around back in the good old days when bushwalkers were real men

EDIT: and women of course, before I get in trouble...[/quote]

I'm proud to be a nancy-boy!

(Just kidding- I do know what you mean!)

[Nuts]

The good days dont seem that 'old', guess 10/20yrs is a lifetime to the young....As for real men, yer perhaps, do recall an article that mentioned a tear in the eye when they reached Cradle summit, does that diminish assumptions? I do admire the principles of old though.... anyhow, this is getting off topic a bit....

[Azza]

It's a problem, but don't wallabies have giardia? and they crap all over the place

dogs faeces carry diseases and parasites that can be harmful to wildlife.
The Wallabies eat the dog faeces, and then crap all over the place..
Vicious cycle and the dogs just make the problem worse by introducing parasites that shouldn't be there in first place.

Bad enough that there could be giardia around without adding to the problem.

[Erica]

For anyone that's interested, there's a report/account written by (I think) the blind guy that walked the track with Eric. Really good read, not sure how you'd get a copy of it but I've read it because its in the Cradle Huts Huts (Tom, no idea how you haven't heard of it, hunt it down if you're still working with CMH). Fascinating to read how he did it, and managed to climb Cradle as well.

[GraemeSpedding]

Oh yeah, there was also a camp fire site at Cavern Camp on the base of PB. We destroyed it after taking pics. We reported this to Parks, too.

Yeh was saw the camp fire scar, it was back by the time we got there on Jan um16 or 17???
Cant believe stuff about the dogs--and of course we drank the water we got from LTTS....unknowingly...
Graeme

[ollster]

Yeh was saw the camp fire scar, it was back by the time we got there on Jan um16 or 17???
Cant believe stuff about the dogs--and of course we drank the water we got from LTTS....unknowingly...
Graeme

No way?! We scattered the rocks all over the place, and some buggers rebuilt it in only 2 weeks!

Hasn't been any word back from Parks, so I expect these fools with the dogs have gotten away with it, which *&^%$#@! me to tears.

[Azza]

Yeh was saw the camp fire scar, it was back by the time we got there on Jan um16 or 17???
Cant believe stuff about the dogs--and of course we drank the water we got from LTTS....unknowingly...
Graeme

No way?! We scattered the rocks all over the place, and some buggers rebuilt it in only 2 weeks!

Hasn't been any word back from Parks, so I expect these fools with the dogs have gotten away with it, which *&^%$#@! me to tears.

I wouldn't be suprised if it was the dog people who rebuilt it... complete disregard for anyone but themselves

[north-north-west]

re the dogs: They're kelpies in top condition, from the photos, who can - and will - go just about anywhere their master will take them. The walk itself would not have bothered them, though carrying much in the way of weight would have. Even the swim wouldn't have been that much of an issue as long as it was without weight.

But the stupid, selfish morons who took them in there don't deserve them.

[Ent]

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[north-north-west]

They are the best dogs.
My last one would go caving with us: not our idea, he insisted. And I must admit, he was useful when we had trouble remembering how to get out - we'd just tell him to get in the car and he'd head off back without a moment's hesitation. Must be wonderful to have a nose like that.

[Liamy77]

what happened in the end i wonder?

[ollster]

what happened in the end i wonder?

They all lived happily ever after. The pricks.

[taswegian]

Many years ago we waltzed into Dixons Kingdom to see a couple of skun wallabies hanging from the boards and a number of shotguns inside.
That afternoon a helicpoter buzzed us and asked if we'd seen horses and people and other unsavoury things.
I understand there was a prosecution .

Do Parks have any money to apply clout nowadays? May have to ask Lara for her input here.

[Liamy77]

if they apply clout then they will get $ from fines surely? chicken or the egg maybe