rcaffin wrote:A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving.
― Lao Tzu.
But he does have a large bag of(cooked) ricechocolate.
Last wrote:The bucket isn't that silly. You just need a different shape, I can sit on this one. 260mm high. Weighs 530g. It fits in my pack. Could put my food in it, for those places with creatures that want to share your food. Likewise, I haven't yet but it's a thought. I also have a Helinox but it's for car camping.
north-north-west wrote:I just find a convenient log/rock. In my day, bushwalkers 'ad it tough ... we 'ad to create our own route through the scrub by lickin' ground clean wi' tongue ...
matagi wrote:I have the Helinox Ground Chair and like it because I can sit with my legs stretched out. It is a bit of a challenge to get out of it but I consider it a good test of flexibility.
Biggles wrote:Before Helinox (among otrhers) came along, there were good and not so good chairs and stools. In my case, a $10 disposals store chair made of too-light aluminium with a triangular seat pad, similar to the one in Johnno's post (top left), collapsed underneath me, spilling tea and spearing me behind the knee. That was many years ago (2002?), but the incident was enough to be wary of cheap products offering more trouble than they are worth! Several chairs and stools have come and gone in that time, mostly nondescript.
Nowadays, a Helinox Chair Zero accompanies me everywhere in my pack; I dislike having to stand up during very long exposure pinhole camera photographs; I want to sit! I concur with Johnno about the fiddly set-up and somewhat wobbly stance; on soft soil I take the ground stabiliser pad and this makes a big improvement, at the expense of more weight. But practice makes perfect and used often enough, assembly and disassembly can be done very quickly. Mountain Designs make a very similar model, but the tubes are considerably thicker and the overall chair is heavier.
JohnnoMcJohnno wrote:Biggles wrote:Before Helinox (among otrhers) came along, there were good and not so good chairs and stools. In my case, a $10 disposals store chair made of too-light aluminium with a triangular seat pad, similar to the one in Johnno's post (top left), collapsed underneath me, spilling tea and spearing me behind the knee. That was many years ago (2002?), but the incident was enough to be wary of cheap products offering more trouble than they are worth! Several chairs and stools have come and gone in that time, mostly nondescript.
Nowadays, a Helinox Chair Zero accompanies me everywhere in my pack; I dislike having to stand up during very long exposure pinhole camera photographs; I want to sit! I concur with Johnno about the fiddly set-up and somewhat wobbly stance; on soft soil I take the ground stabiliser pad and this makes a big improvement, at the expense of more weight. But practice makes perfect and used often enough, assembly and disassembly can be done very quickly. Mountain Designs make a very similar model, but the tubes are considerably thicker and the overall chair is heavier.
Yes, a chair or stool collapsing is my biggest worry. Hasn't happened yet and I really don't want it to. At least the Helinox products seem well designed and sorted. However if the bucket would fit my pack, I would probably take that. You won't get speared should it collapse. And it can hold snacks for you to eat while waiting for your long exposure.
Biggles wrote:
The Helinox chairs do wobble a bit. Many prospective buyers consider the wobble to be a sign of weakness, but it is not. I'm not a heavy person (57.8kg), which is way under the upper limit of weight this and other chairs can withstand. It is awkward to get out of, rather tempting to stay all day in it, which unashamedly I did on a recent day trip to Mount Franklin for World Pinhole PHotography Day on Sunday 30th April [https://pinholeday.org/gallery/2023/index.php?id=731&Country=Australia]! I used the Zero on that and four additional frames. A bit more awkward to find a stable place in rainforest environments e.g. like the Otways, where the ground is forever soft (often like quicksand!) and leeches are waiting keenly for me to make a contribution to their ecosystem. At the end of the day, I'm just happy to have something comfy to sit in, that can be packed away small, does not weigh much and is ready for action.
JohnnoMcJohnno wrote:Biggles wrote:
The Helinox chairs do wobble a bit. Many prospective buyers consider the wobble to be a sign of weakness, but it is not. I'm not a heavy person (57.8kg), which is way under the upper limit of weight this and other chairs can withstand. It is awkward to get out of, rather tempting to stay all day in it, which unashamedly I did on a recent day trip to Mount Franklin for World Pinhole PHotography Day on Sunday 30th April [https://pinholeday.org/gallery/2023/index.php?id=731&Country=Australia]! I used the Zero on that and four additional frames. A bit more awkward to find a stable place in rainforest environments e.g. like the Otways, where the ground is forever soft (often like quicksand!) and leeches are waiting keenly for me to make a contribution to their ecosystem. At the end of the day, I'm just happy to have something comfy to sit in, that can be packed away small, does not weigh much and is ready for action.
f 235 !!!! You definitely need a comfy seat.
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