Food weights / lists thread

[climberman]

Hi folks I'd like to get an idea of what people do to get lower food weights. Ideally I'd like to go sub 500g/day, at about 6500kJ+.

My last trip was:

Day 3 Item kJ/100g g taken kJ/meal kJ/day weight/day
breakfast
dried apple, raw 1260 50 630 630 50
oats 1590 50 795 795 50
sugar (raw) 1600 5 80 80 5
milk powder (full cream) 597 50 298 298 50



Snacks fried noodles 2092 50 1046 50
dried apple, raw 1260 50 630 50
gels 1260 34 420 34
subtotal snacks 2096


Lunch
Kraft Prm w'meal bts 1820 60 1040 1040 60
Tuna packet 100 600 100


drinks (each) coffee 5 7 0.1
sugar (raw) 1600 5 80
milk powder (full cream) 597 15 90
Subtotal drinks (@ 3/day) 27 170.1 510 95



Dinner
Rice 100 1630 1630
chickn Couscous 155 155 2209 2209 155

Totals 7658 699


I could have easily lost a coffee a day (they were mighty strong).

Any ideas or anyone else have a comparison list ?

[climberman]

darn - tables didn't come out well. Anyway - 7658 kJ at 699 (let's call it 700) grams.

[Keziah]

Don't have a list ahndy but I do a couple of things differently that adds more kj for less weight.

I take more high kj snacks favourites being peanut m&ms and those honey nut bars (the ones that look like pure honey and nuts and are generally found in asian stores/sections). I alocate more weight to this and less to main meals.

I also take some sort of dried sausage meat over tuna a lot of the time because it is much higher kj (though i like tuna so still take it for 1 ever three days or so).

[ninjapuppet]

and where exactly, can you find these dried sausage meat?

[Keziah]

and where exactly, can you find these dried sausage meat?

I just didn't know what else to call them! You know, salami type things but not salami.

[SteveJ]

I'd like to see you give up your industrial strength coffee!!! talk about Killer-Jules please don't try this on any of our trips please...

Fats and alcohol are the most energy-dense foods, so I am guessing Margerine and vodka for 3 meals a day?? Perhaps olive oil and ethanol? I actually did see a documentry of a couple of dudes that crossed the north pole eating margerine .... Then there are the GU energy gels and other goodies... yuk

on a serious note....

From National Heart Foundation;

Bread
Type of food .............kilojoules
White (1 slice) ........... 275
Turkish (50g piece) .... 565
Rye (1 slice) .............. 275
Wholemeal (1 slice) ... 260

Eggs (One)
Type of food ........ kilojoules
Boiled/poached ... 290
Fried .................. 417

Dairy
Type of food .................................... kilojoules
Full-cream milk (1 cup) ..................... 700
Lite white (reduced fat) milk (1 cup) ... 545
Skim milk (1 cup) ............................ 460
Soy milk (1 cup) .............................. 635
Natural yoghurt (200g) ...................... 670
Fruit yoghurt (200g) .......................... 965
Blue vein cheese (30g) ..................... 395
Brie (30g) ........................................ 375
Cheddar (30g) .................................. 500
Cottage cheese (2 tbsp) ................... 155
Fetta (30g) ...................................... 400
Swiss cheese (30g) ......................... 460
Butter (1 tsp) ................................... 150
Margarine (1 tsp) ............................. 150

Meat
Type of food ................................... kilojoules
Lean beef mince (10% fat) (100g) ..... 710
Hamburger mince (25% fat) (100g) ... 1230
Chicken breast (no skin) (100g) ....... 605
Chicken breast (with skin) (100g) ..... 920
1 medium T-bone steak ................... 960
Sausages (beef/pork) (80g) .............. 875

Drinks
Type of food ............................. kilojoules
1 glass cola soft drink (250ml) ... 460
1 can light beer ........................ 260
1 can beer ............................... 585
White wine (120ml) ................... 315
Red wine (120ml) ...................... 335
Sparkling wine (120ml) .............. 395

Fruit
Type of food ........................... kilojoules
Grapefruit (1/2) ....................... 85
Lemon ................................... 95
Strawberries (1 cup) ................ 125
Mandarin ................................ 145
Kiwifruit .................................. 150
Peach .................................... 167
Apple ..................................... 270
Orange .................................. 335
Mango ................................... 425
Grapes (medium-size bunch) ... 525

Tea/coffee
Type of food ........................... kilojoules
Black coffee (1 cup) ............... 15
Black tea (1 cup) ................... 10
Herbal tea (all types) (1 cup) ... 9
+ 1 tsp sugar add ................... 85
+ full-cream milk add .............. 55
+ skim milk add ..................... 50

Snacks/treats
Type of food .................................... kilojoules
Popcorn (air-popped, no oil) (1 cup) ... 115
Ice-cream (vanilla, 1 scoop) .............. 375
Milk chocolate (1 bar) ....................... 840
1 packet potato crisps (50g) ............. 1045

Fruit/vegetable juice
Type of food ............ kilojoules
Carrot (200ml) ......... 270
Tomato (250ml) ....... 290
Grapefruit (200ml) ... 305
Apple (200ml) ......... 390
Orange (250ml) ....... 400
Cranberry (250ml) ... 500
Pineapple (250ml) ... 530

Vegetables
Type of food ..................... kilojoules
Lettuce (1 cup) ................. 10
Broccoli (2 florets) ............ 45
Beans (1/2 cup) ................ 50
Zucchini (1) ...................... 55
Peas (1/2 cup, cooked) ..... 85
Carrots (1) ....................... 135
Potatoes (100g, cooked) ... 280
Sweet corn (1 cob) ........... 392

Takeaway
Type of food ................................ kilojoules
Sushi (1 roll) ............................... 185
French fries (small serve) (90g) ..... 1089
1 meat pie (175g) ........................ 1880
1 thin pizza slice ......................... 900
McDonald's Big Mac .................... 1965
Hungry Jack's Whopper Cheese ... 3100
KFC (2 pieces chicken) ................ 3010
Subway (15cm roasted chicken) ... 1350

Pasta and rice
Type of food ........................... kilojoules
Pasta (1 cup, cooked) ............. 835
Brown rice (1/2 cup, cooked) ... 450
White rice (1/2 cup, cooked) .... 430
Couscous (1/2 cup, cooked) .... 370

Fish
Type of food ............... kilojoules
Barramundi (100g) ...... 360
Rainbow trout (100g) ... 500
Salmon (50g) .............. 500


Salmon Jerky??

Steve

[sthughes]

Looks like KFC or Hungry Jacks is the way to go, nice

[Ent]

Um? Maybe until the scurvy hits? Wonder a bit the effect on the body of specialised diets and whether short term "booster" diets are shrugged off or have a more lasting effect.

Cheers Brett

[Macca81]

beer and a t-bone!

[juney]

Before a 10 day winter walk last year I spent a bit of time at the supermarket looking at food info panels to get the foods densest in calories.
Breakfast:
I baked biscuits and slice packed full of nuts, seeds and dried fruit and had it with a good strong "real" coffee.
Lunch:
salami and cheese with 9 grain vita wheats. I rotate the cheese between colby, philadelphia cream cheese and brie.
Between 2, daily we took 80g hard cheese, 80g soft cheese, 125g salami, 125g vitawheats and some vegemite. That was enough that we could snack on salami and cheese either side of lunch as we walked.
Snacks:
sugar coated macadamias
peanut m&ms
Whittakers chocolate slabs - coconut, peanut and almond
sesame snaps
honey and eucalyptus lollies
Dinner:
rotated between back country, home dehy meals and pasta packs
Drinks:
Coffee, tea, chilli cocoa, flavoured vodka to have with the anticipated snow, tang

The high cal winners were the salami, cheese and sugar macadamias. I don't eat salami at all in normal life, however as a hiking food it is gold. Fills me up and keeps me going for ages. Also love to have cream cheese and vegemite vita wheats. I crave it when I hike and again it keeps me going.
I must say, in those quantities it ended up a bit much - too much strong tasting food and by the end I would have preferred a low cal, fresh tasting capsicum. (I've since modified my food list to have some spinach, mushroom and capsicum and less salami and cheese and enjoy it much more.) If you want the max calories for weight though it's the way to go.

Sorry, I'm not organised enough to give you the cals etc
Cheers,
Juney