wild animals for dinner question

[ollster]

I can say from several personal experiences, wallaby makes a pretty good rendang.

[north-north-west]

I wonder why no one has seriously tried to domesticate and farm kangaroo. As Nik says, it's a healthier choice. Is it just the market acceptance thing?

Kangaroos just don't domesticate well. They're very nervy animals who really don't like to be handled - trying to move a mob from paddock to paddock, for instance, or to worm them, would cause many to die from myopathy.
It's more productive, and less stressful for the animals, to cull wild mobs.

[walkinTas]

I have also heard that they are very stupid animals. Even dumber than sheep!

You have to remember that all our domesticated live stock and pets were wild and unruly once. It took generations of selective breeding to turn a wild dog into a poodle, and a wild goat into the common white milking goat. Domestication and farming would eventually do the same for the kangaroo.

While I'm typing can I ask why we don't have a sexier name for kangaroo meat. Goat is chevron or cabrito, Sheep is mutton, Calf is veal, Deer is venison, Pig is pork or bacon or ham. All sound heaps better than roo (which unfortunately rhymes with one of the favourite topics on these forums).

[corvus]

I have also heard that they are very stupid animals. Even dumber than sheep!

You have to remember that all our domesticated live stock and pets were wild and unruly once. It took generations of selective breeding to turn a wild dog into a poodle, and a wild goat into the common white milking goat. Domestication and farming would eventually do the same for the kangaroo.

While I'm typing can I ask why we don't have a sexier name for kangaroo meat. Goat is chevron or cabrito, Sheep is mutton, Calf is veal, Deer is venison, Pig is pork or bacon or ham. All sound heaps better than roo (which unfortunately rhymes with one of the favourite topics on these forums).

WT I think you mean CHEVON a chevron is a V shape or a V shaped object e.g.: a sleeve badge like you could wear now that you have been promoted.

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[Macca81]

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Well spotted Corvus.

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[Nuts]

har har, he's thinking out loud, leave him be...

[tasadam]

I did not put the "well spotted" comment in and I have edited it out now can the mods tell me how it was added to my post

PM sent.

[walkinTas]

Oh dear!

You see Corvus - all of a sudden there is this other button in every post I see. And to think, all I was trying to give you a pat on the back. I clicked "edit" when I meant to click "quote".

Really, honestly, I don't need glasses to use a computer - only for things that are like a foot away. And the laptop screen is clearly more that 18 inches away. It is just poor software design. The stupid "edit" button shouldn't be the same colour as the "quote" button.

[Macca81]

Oh dear!

You see Corvus - all of a sudden there is this other button in every post I see. And to think, all I was trying to give you a pat on the back. I clicked "edit" when I meant to click "quote".

Really, honestly, I don't need glasses to use a computer - only for things that are like a foot away. And the laptop screen is clearly more that 18 inches away. It is just poor software design. The stupid "edit" button shouldn't be the same colour as the "quote" button.

i understand where you are coming from, i have been moderators on a number of forums for a few years now and i still hit the 'edit' button occasionally by mistake... it can make for some interesting posts! (as you have recently found out )

[corvus]

Oh dear!

You see Corvus - all of a sudden there is this other button in every post I see. And to think, all I was trying to give you a pat on the back. I clicked "edit" when I meant to click "quote".

Really, honestly, I don't need glasses to use a computer - only for things that are like a foot away. And the laptop screen is clearly more that 18 inches away. It is just poor software design. The stupid "edit" button shouldn't be the same colour as the "quote" button.

i understand where you are coming from, i have been moderators on a number of forums for a few years now and i still hit the 'edit' button occasionally by mistake... it can make for some interesting posts! (as you have recently found out )

G'day Macca81,
Now that you have the full story perhaps you would like to "edit" you derogatory post about me
Or are you to proud to admitting that you were wrong

[Liamy77]

Oh dear!

You see Corvus - all of a sudden there is this other button in every post I see. And to think, all I was trying to give you a pat on the back. I clicked "edit" when I meant to click "quote".

Really, honestly, I don't need glasses to use a computer - only for things that are like a foot away. And the laptop screen is clearly more that 18 inches away. It is just poor software design. The stupid "edit" button shouldn't be the same colour as the "quote" button.

i understand where you are coming from, i have been moderators on a number of forums for a few years now and i still hit the 'edit' button occasionally by mistake... it can make for some interesting posts! (as you have recently found out )

G'day Macca81,
Now that you have the full story perhaps you would like to "edit" you derogatory post about me
Or are you to proud to admitting that you were wrong

[Macca81]

Oh dear!

You see Corvus - all of a sudden there is this other button in every post I see. And to think, all I was trying to give you a pat on the back. I clicked "edit" when I meant to click "quote".

Really, honestly, I don't need glasses to use a computer - only for things that are like a foot away. And the laptop screen is clearly more that 18 inches away. It is just poor software design. The stupid "edit" button shouldn't be the same colour as the "quote" button.

i understand where you are coming from, i have been moderators on a number of forums for a few years now and i still hit the 'edit' button occasionally by mistake... it can make for some interesting posts! (as you have recently found out )

G'day Macca81,
Now that you have the full story perhaps you would like to "edit" you derogatory post about me
Or are you to proud to admitting that you were wrong

:O derogatory? oh im hurt...

[north-north-west]

I have also heard that they are very stupid animals. Even dumber than sheep!

You have to remember that all our domesticated live stock and pets were wild and unruly once. It took generations of selective breeding to turn a wild dog into a poodle, and a wild goat into the common white milking goat. Domestication and farming would eventually do the same for the kangaroo.

While I'm typing can I ask why we don't have a sexier name for kangaroo meat. Goat is chevron or cabrito, Sheep is mutton, Calf is veal, Deer is venison, Pig is pork or bacon or ham. All sound heaps better than roo (which unfortunately rhymes with one of the favourite topics on these forums).

No, they aren't stupid. Reasonably smart, even if 'Skippy' is overdoing it a bit.

Trouble is, you need a semi-domesticated animal to begin selective breeding, and roos aren't really at that stage. The only way to do it would be to keep rehabilitated injured and sick animals and start your breeding program with them. It would take a long time, though.

[Swifty]

I have also heard that they are very stupid animals. Even dumber than sheep!

No, they aren't stupid. Reasonably smart, even if 'Skippy' is overdoing it a bit.

Trouble is, you need a semi-domesticated animal to begin selective breeding, and roos aren't really at that stage. The only way to do it would be to keep rehabilitated injured and sick animals and start your breeding program with them. It would take a long time, though.

Stupid is as stupid does! They've managed to keep the species going pretty well - is there any other measure?
Humans have tried to domesticate just about every animal, the ones that are domesticated appear to be the only ones that can be. (I learnt that from Jared Diamond)
PS edit: the Russians managed to "domesticate" foxes during the '50's - in only a few generations of selective breeding. (That was Diamond -- [with Forrest Gump accent] - again).

[Liamy77]

didn't he also end up with big changes in their coats colouring too??

[Ent]

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[stepbystep]

I have also heard that they are very stupid animals.

There was even a documentary made called "Australia - Survival of the Dumbest"

We are indeed a prosperous nation

[Liamy77]

Now only if I could domestic a Siberian tiger

Cheers Brett

Maybe you could call it "Complaints Dept." Might be interesting keeping one instead of a dog maybe....
...Aussie post might have a problem with it?!... walkkin along with the mail Tiger leaps out The postie gets a bit of a shock and may have an accident... of some sort (keep your camera handy... good for any unwanted visitors..)???

Problem with this is that we may well be the wild animals' dinner! - just to tie it in to the topic


(I thought i'd try n do a smilie theatre / documentary thingy..)

[RayTheWanderer]

Hunting/gathering wild food is the way to go, remember, you are what you eat.
Eat strong, free, wild food and you can feel the difference. There is food around you, all the time, especially in Australia.

[Liamy77]

I have also heard that they are very stupid animals. Even dumber than sheep!

You have to remember that all our domesticated live stock and pets were wild and unruly once. It took generations of selective breeding to turn a wild dog into a poodle, and a wild goat into the common white milking goat. Domestication and farming would eventually do the same for the kangaroo.

While I'm typing can I ask why we don't have a sexier name for kangaroo meat. Goat is chevron or cabrito, Sheep is mutton, Calf is veal, Deer is venison, Pig is pork or bacon or ham. All sound heaps better than roo (which unfortunately rhymes with one of the favourite topics on these forums).

WT I think you mean CHEVON a chevron is a V shape or a V shaped object e.g.: a sleeve badge like you could wear now that you have been promoted.

No sorry Corvus he was right it is CHEVRON yes it also means a military insignia but it is French as is Mutton when William the conquerer invaded and began to control england the french aristocracy got the good food and gave the meat their french names. the peasants bred and raised the "sheep" (anglo saxon origin) but the noble french ate "mutton"... so unless we invent a nice name we would need some french (normandie) invaders to help outi spose....

[corvus]

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No sorry Corvus he was right it is CHEVRON yes it also means a military insignia but it is French as is Mutton when William the conquerer invaded and began to control england the french aristocracy got the good food and gave the meat their french names. the peasants bred and raised the "sheep" (anglo saxon origin) but the noble french ate "mutton"... so unless we invent a nice name we would need some french (normandie) invaders to help outi spose....

G'day Liam,
Don't know whose song book you are singing from but according to my "New Larousse Gastronomique" Mutton in French is "Mouton" Goat is "Chevre" and all of my Dictionaries say that Chevron is a stripe and I cannot find any reference to it being mutton but will be happy to acknowledge my error subject to proof
corvus

[Liamy77]

i never said it was a modern translation Corvus just meant that that is where the modern words derive from.... mouton in french is the animal "sheep" - mutton is the dynamic and changing english word for a kind of cooked sheep meat deriving from.... oh heck you know what i mean ya fussy bugger! lol - you're stirrin me aren't ya i gotta respect that
heres some references for ya then...
http://answers.ask.com/Food_and_Drinks/ ... eat_called
http://www.britishboergoatsociety.co.uk ... 0meat.html
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mutton

and to be technical you need a grave over the first "e" in "chèvre" unless you spell it in capital letters
but i have heard chevon before too as well as mutton used to refer to goat meat too.... but it was more fun to stir you than mention that at first
now i'm getting hungry... i wonder if youll be cooking goat on one of your stoves soon?

[corvus]

G'day Liam,
As an old fart I do not know how to put a grave over the e and sorry to rain on your parade but the answer in the "ask com" is wrong it is CHEVON not Chevron do a search in the Dictionary
And I have not eaten Capreto or Chevon for a couple of years now but have discovered a supplier in the State I may well be able to remedy that
And if it makes you feel any better chevron the noun has its origin in Old French and chevre the noun(with a grave) in the Oxford Dictionary is now listed as French Cheese made with goat's milk.
The new FS100T Stove is perfect and comes with my personal recommendation
corvus

[Liamy77]

cripey and we havnt even got onto discussing which herbs to use yet

took a few goes to find a supporting answer mind you



maybe Mountain Pepper.... and served on a bed of boiled Dock leaves?

last time i had goat our old neighbor had a goat shot... but then he chopped it up with his flippin chainsaw! so tough on the bbq the dog wouldn't even go for it

[corvus]

Oregano if you do it Greek style, Rosemary if Italian,Cumin and Chilli Mexican style ,French tend to avoid it and when they can get it in India any regional herb method will work,yet to find a Chinese recipe but I guess any of the Northern Mongolian Lamb dishes would work with Goat
You still hungry Liam
corvus

[Liamy77]

yup theres rumbles now and i'm off to hunt and gather across the rolling plains of the kitchen pantry