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Bushwalk Inventory System can help bushwalkers with a variety of bushwalk planning tasks, including: Manage which items they take bushwalking so that they do not forget anything they might need, plan meals for their walks, and automatically compile food/fuel shopping lists (lists of consumables) required to make and cook the meals for each walk. It is particularly useful for planning for groups who share food or other items, but is also useful for individual walkers.
Sun 12 Sep, 2010 5:28 pm
What are some thoughts on the carriage of water. Camelbaks Vs bottles. One big bottle Vs a number of small bottles?
Sun 12 Sep, 2010 5:50 pm
PET bottles. They cost like.....nothing!

And you ever try breaking one of those puppies?
Sun 12 Sep, 2010 6:33 pm
I have been using an MSR dromlight with the suck tube for years. Just recently I have decided to give bottles a go, well the collapsable Platapus "bottles" mainly for the weight savings. Not sure how it will go I love having water on hand easily with the tube.
The bladder I have is 6L which is way too big. Although I have nearly filled it a couple of times. These days I make sure I have at least two containers. One for treating dirty water while drinking from the other.
Sun 12 Sep, 2010 7:04 pm
Ive used all sorts of bladders and bottles. counted over 15 types in my collection, but the ones i like the most are those nalgenes Earthglider are selling
http://bushwalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4710I think they hold 1.7L, extremely light and their wide mouth allows me to treat water with the steripen.
The MSRs dromedaries are good but cleaning them and drying them out can be a hassle since the opening isnt at the end, and their solid fabric means you cant see inside when its dried out or how dirty it still is inside. with those nalgene canteens, just flip them over and all the water drips out and eventually dries out cleanly.
they're much lighter than a normal nalgene 1L aswell. maybe not last as long, but will probally last several years for me at least.
I still have a dedicated PET bottle as my pee bottle. Those liptions ice tea are good. just gotta make sure the opening is large enough (learnt from personal experience one cold night that the opening wasnt wide enough for me, and could have turned out abit messy)
Sun 12 Sep, 2010 8:28 pm
Lol, nice to see some others use pee bottles. I used one on a recent cold trip and my walking buddies thought it was quite funny. I was the one laughing when I could hear them going outside in the below 0 temperatures to do their whizzes while I was able to stay nice and snug
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 3:08 pm
I use a Camelback bladder (3L) for general water carrying, as I find I tend to drink more often (and just more) when I walk with one, with smaller sips of water being the norm. This is A Good Thing in my opinion, rather than gulping down water during stops, which can make my stomach feel a bit "bleh". On longer trips I'll carry a second roll up water bladder (2L) if we anticipate little water.
The Camelback bladders are pretty quick to fill too, having a very wide mouth, a small handle, and being quite flexible, they are easily scooped through a stream or held under a trickle.
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 3:24 pm
I like to carry water bottles on a belt with my med kit or fly fishing bum bag, combined with a daypack. When fishing, I can drop the pack but keep the essentials with me. I find it keeps the tension out of my back. So I retain the habit with bushwalks as well. For o'night, I use a bladder in the pack and can carry extra water in bottles if necessary. It may seem strange that I can carry weight for o'night but not for a day walk. I think it is to do with the enertia when fly casting with weight on the back. I hate fishing vests for the same reason. Anyway, I have learnt that the worst thing to do is put bottles in my back because then forgett to drink enough.
Ken
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 3:36 pm
i use both bladders and metal bottles (there is often limited water over here in WA) i use a bladder (3L) while walking but have wide necked metal bottles for rehydrating food, treating water and sometimes for boiling water in too (watch that it has not got a plastic lining/ coating inside the bottle) ....i have a 1.2L and a 350mL wide neck as well as an army plastic canteen that my mug fits around.... i have a pee bottle too but its not usually cold enough here to bother....
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 6:59 pm
MSR 4L Dromlite Storage Reservor
http://www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/water ... gs/productI got rid of my camelbac cause I kept running out of water. I can control intake better this way.
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Mon 13 Sep, 2010 8:01 pm
ollster wrote:I use a Camelback bladder (3L) for general water carrying, as I find I tend to drink more often (and just more) when I walk with one, with smaller sips of water being the norm. This is A Good Thing in my opinion, rather than gulping down water during stops, which can make my stomach feel a bit "bleh".
im much the same.
i would much prefer to have the water allways on hand, as i find i often dont bother drinking when i have to get a bottle out. a bladder all the way for me!
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 8:18 pm
I carry 2 gatoraide style bottles in the front of my Aarn balance pockets and a Platypus bladder inside my pack- empty if I know there is plenty of water about, but handy to fill up and treat at camp. Before the Aarn I always carried PET bottle in the pack- practically indestructable.
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 8:35 pm
seriously considering the pee bottle. however, when i lived on a boat, another boat went by, and the wake made me slip, it went everywhere. i don't want to relive that ever again.
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:41 pm
Cocksy_86 wrote:seriously considering the pee bottle. however, when i lived on a boat, another boat went by, and the wake made me slip, it went everywhere. i don't want to relive that ever again.
Yep, never ever use a pee bottle while in your sleeping bag.
Ken
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 1:08 pm
Being a Taswegian water carrying in't usually a big concern. Usually I just carry a single 750ml PET (sports drink one with the bigger mouth for quick refill). If it's drier then I add a second bottle (750ml PET or my seldom used 1L Nalgene). These both go in my OP Macmillan bottle holders, so nice and easy to use at any time while walking.
Beyond that an empty 4L wine bladder (not necessarily full) goes in the pack (but outside the pack liner, they can burst if you are reckless!). Actually on overnight walks this always goes (empty) just for convenience at camp. Have also got a 10L water bladder but never used it.
Used to use a bladder on my old pack that didn't have reachable bottle holders, still do on my 'bottle holderless' day pack if it's a long dry day walk.Cheap 600ml Nalgene(like) pee bottle - never used yet.
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 3:55 pm
I use a 750ml coke bottle with a hole drilled in the lid and some tube stuck down it and a bite valve. Carry a normal lid for when I am at camp and using it for cooking. Also carry a platypus for when water is further away from camp.
I have just revised my pee bottle options. I used to use a 1 litre milke bottle. It got crushed on my last walk and had a hair line crack in it. I first thought I was getting very messy with my aim. Definitely dont have your sleepimg bag near when using one. Had to give my sleeping mat a a good soapy wash when I got home. Glad it was only a 3 day walk.
Roger
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 6:25 pm
Ollster,
do you carry the camelbak inside your pack and do you trust that it wont leak. I have seen the Camelbak "Unbotle" with cover for avout $47. Whatr do you think?
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 6:31 pm
norts wrote:I use a 750ml coke bottle with a hole drilled in the lid and some tube stuck down it and a bite valve. Carry a normal lid for when I am at camp and using it for cooking. Also carry a platypus for when water is further away from camp.
I have just revised my pee bottle options. I used to use a 1 litre milke bottle. It got crushed on my last walk and had a hair line crack in it. I first thought I was getting very messy with my aim. Definitely dont have your sleepimg bag near when using one. Had to give my sleeping mat a a good soapy wash when I got home. Glad it was only a 3 day walk.
Roger
Lol. Sorry Norts but thats very funny......
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 7:46 pm
*sigh*
Sometimes it must be great being a bloke.
Bladder. Always. Can drink whenever I want to. Drink much more that way. Which means more frequent stops to refill one bladder and/or empty the other.
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 9:08 pm
north-north-west wrote: Drink much more that way. Which means more frequent stops to refill one bladder and/or empty the other.
Lol, Also very funny.
I love pee jokes.
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 9:34 pm
north-north-west wrote:*sigh*
Sometimes it must be great being a bloke.
Yep, it's a mans world. You could carry a funnel...

Could double as a trumpet
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 10:04 pm
geoskid wrote:You could carry a funnel...
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Tue 14 Sep, 2010 10:41 pm
gisborne612 wrote:Ollster,
do you carry the camelbak inside your pack and do you trust that it wont leak. I have seen the Camelbak "Unbotle" with cover for avout $47. Whatr do you think?
I use the lid pocket on my pack (OP MacMillan) to store my Camelback, and in the 5 or 6 years I've owned the bladder is has never leaked once. Wouldn't really matter for me if it was in my pack and did leak, as I use roll top dry bags to store everything that's subject to water "damage".
I don't like having anything hanging off the outside of my pack (drinking hose is a necessary evil), so I wouldn't use the "unbottle" personally, but it's probably fine.
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