Macpac Hollyford review

[norts]

This is my 3rd resolution jacket. I have been washing my jacket in grangers 2 in 1. So far it has been ok, havent had it any really wild weather. It does breath well. Last use was going up Mposes Creek track. It was not raining or snowing but i was walking in deep snow so I had my jacket on , snow kept falling off bushes, I was working fairly hard, but the jacket worked very well.

Roger

[Nuts]

Thanks Norts. I was just interested in hearing from someone who had tried reproofing/re-applying an aftermarket DWR and whether they noticed a difference (ie handles better between washes or breathes not so well)?

[Ent]

Hi

Curious on what is the better DWR reproofing method. My reading on eVent suggest a wash in product is better while Gore-tex appears to support the spray on reproofing. On performance I wash and dry my PP Vista Goretex jacket after a walk where I use it for any length of time. As mentioned this seams to have worked a treat to date. I have washed and dried my eVent stuff and the Rab pants came up great but not so impressed on the Montane jacket.

Amazing that not so long ago many people were telling me to wash Goretex as little as possible. Find the same thing with down products. Now I wash them regularly and dry them using a clothes dryer after they have air dried enough to have lost most of the water. I tend to think assuming that the detergent is the correct stuff for the job and the dryer does not have nicks cut from things like zips that is the way to go. Actually my next drier will have an all stainless steel drum to avoid the damage that can be caused by the plastic bits been nicked.

Cheers

[blacksheep]

by the way...it is not Macpac DWR. We buy the fabric from eVent, and therefore the DWR is the same on the fabric whether it is cut and sewn into Montane/Rab/MHW garments.

I have been talking to GE / eVent about this and comments made re: DWR, and they advise that they are investigating this, but their own environmental standards are proving challenging to meet in a higher spec chemical. Please be aware that Event are committed to avoiding using Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA or C8), which is/has been used in the DWR by many other companies, as PFOA is now recognised as being a toxicant and a carcinogen.

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[photohiker]

Please be aware that Event are committed to avoiding using Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA or C8), which is/has been used in the DWR by many other companies, as PFOA is now recoginised as being a toxicant and a carcigonen.

So... what's in the common re-application products like nikwax? Nothing on the pack except to say no hydrocarbons. I thought ingredients had to be on the pack these days.

[Nuts]

by the way...it is not Macpac DWR. We buy the fabric from eVent, and therefore the DWR is the same on the fabric whether it is cut and sewn into Montane/Rab/MHW garments.

I have been talking to GE / eVent about this and comments made re: DWR, and they advise that they are invesigating this, but their own environmental standards are proving challenging to meet in a higher spec chemical. Please be aware that Event are committed to avoiding using Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA or C8), which is/has been used in the DWR by many other companies, as PFOA is now recoginised as being a toxicant and a carcigonen.

So I guess they use the same solution and method with different weight face fabric also? (I too have noticed a difference with certain jackets but it could have been the use/dirt factor) Any tests or thoughts with a/m products such as Nikwax etc.

[Nuts]

Please be aware that Event are committed to avoiding using Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA or C8), which is/has been used in the DWR by many other companies, as PFOA is now recoginised as being a toxicant and a carcigonen.

So... what's in the common re-application products like nikwax? Nothing on the pack except to say no hydrocarbons. I thought ingredients had to be on the pack these days.

edit: The wash is pretty harmless p/h: http://www.nikwax.com/cmsdata/Downloads ... sh_SDS.pdf (techwash datasheet)
The proof looks to be also: http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cg ... d=14019002