north-north-west wrote:Lamont wrote:You might be waiting a fair while. Seppos don't like the solid inners apparently (mainly for milder weather use perhaps which is the market they are aiming at I reckon) so I believe there is not much ($) impetus.
Interesting. Yet so many of the responses on their blurb were requests for solid inners.
Most recent thing said by Dan around this I read was he couldn't/was struggling to convince the marketing people. I think you have a fair dinkum bloke up against the marketers and a small time operation so far. Once this gets in full swing I reckon they will just continually roll off the production line about three to four times a year to maintain the cachet.
I'm sure US 'casual backpackers' are their prime market, especially just now -they get far fewer holidays compared to us as you probably know, so they only 'backpack' in the fine/warm months-no need for a solid inner. This is where the money is-REI as Massdrop/Massdrop as REI.
The calls for the solid inner I reckon are mainly from the harder core Americans/Europeans(Brits especially) and us-none of whom is their target market at the moment.
Unfortunately it seems Dan's been metaphorically contractually muzzled of late. I think the economy of the matter has become less tenuous.
If you are willing to wait you'll likely get what you want(?) -and it will probably be excellent but I reckon you'll be waiting for the eagle to land for a while.
Didn't he originally say end of this year -yankee winter? They haven't even launched properly the current one. It will be interesting to follow.
Massdrop people are even sending out wee tendrils on a DCF model!