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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby jononz » Wed 18 Jan, 2012 5:25 pm

bluewombat wrote:Hi Andrew and Mic
sorry it has taken a little while to answer your questions.
My general principle is never to trust the base of my tent to the vagaries of Tassie scrub, so although the floor tub seems solid I use a Tyvek footprint. The fly zip is a single zip and no storm flap (well not on my one at least, perhaps they have upgraded over the last 2 years). Not sure a storm flap is really necessary as the fly is a looong way from the inner at this point. I use 8 pegs but if you didnt need to use all of the space under the fly ends you could get away with less. The configuration in the picture was used for an absolute howler of a rain storm.
So far it has proven very adept at shedding rain, even of the absolutely hissing down variety. It has not been out in really heavy snow, so cant comment on shedding there but it did not have any issues with a light fall. I suspect you may get a little collection at either end of the fly where the cross poles go. Wind does not trouble it at all, even really windy wind. It is bombproof and you feel very confident inside it.
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Used a Pacer1 in the NZ bush, Lightweight, bit of an odd geometry, not easy to pitch I find, Needs a footprint yes, seams need sealing as this is not done when purchased. No storm seal on Zip. bit surprised at that, been in pouring rain and its completely watertight. Tends to be a windtunnel in high wind as the ends are raised, the inner flaps about a bit, no condensation as ventilation brilliant. Very compact and lightweight, have used a macpac bush bivvy up to now which was a great design, but at 65 I need a little more comfort. Instructions say pitch with end toward wind...don't know about that, end away from the wind..side on is better. Very strong with poles and top tube, elastic securing bracket in one tube end prevents the trek pole from entering the tube properly...design fault!!!!. On balance this is a brilliant tent.

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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Gusto » Wed 18 Jan, 2012 9:37 pm

jononz wrote:Hello from NZ,

Poles are strong in high winds, the cross pole is great except one end where the elastic centre connector bracket tends to block the entry of the pole tip, bad design that.

Jono in Kiwi Land


I don't have this issue. More either it's been rectified in newer models or it was a slight error in the stiching. I've also found that if once the tent has been pegged down along the sides of the tent then in no longer flaps. Also if you keep the guy lines short on the tent ends it holds the tent down better. Addtitionally you could attach some extra loops of bungy cord to the pole ends so you can pitch these down too.

This tent withstands wind very well.

One thing I do find odd though is the typo of clip used to hold the fly door back. I think it would be better to use the same system that attaches the inner tent to the outer tent. ( simple loop and toggle )
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 11:46 am

PROS:
Bucket floor, nice finish, DAC poles, looks good first impression.

Steep enough walls, roomy and nice colour for storms/locating in low viz...integral pitch/versatile pitch. Nice storage pockets in base of tent...will have to look at rigging up a loft and/or light/lantern attachment for the girlfriend.

The centre pole and walking poles give a lot of confidence for strong winds. Minimal use of conventional (DAC) poles too which I like.

CONS:
Only two little things I noticed after setting it up at home...zip pulls not reflective material but I can do that myself, and I need to take my snow baskets off my poles otherwise they press on the fabric (no big but a little more annoying in winter)...small price to pay when they're $299 right now.

A little bit more fiddly to set up than most other tents that don't have trekking pole and connectors but practice will solve that problem I'd imagine.



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And if you live in Melbourne I believe you can check them out in person. Or Christchurch?

Need to seam seal now and then can't wait to get out in person. (Tyvek or Cuben flooring and Ti pegs may be upgrade possibilities if I decide I like the tent enough after use.)


Can see this being a favourite for sure...better than the WEs, Macpacs, Kathmandus and the MECs, MSRs, Expeds that I've come and used across to date.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 11:54 am

Ice, how do you plan to seem seal it? I have one of these bargains too, haven't even opened it yet but plan to this weekend.

I've used the glue type stuff on a gore tex jacket, back in the 70's but I'm hoping there is now a better way.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 12:09 pm

There's a tube included with the tent. Find an old brush and away you go?

My first foray into sealing Silnylon

If you can do the jacket this should be easier...assuming the sealing job on the jacket was a repair for a hole/tear/rip?


Hmm, I wonder if the weight of the sealant is included in the pack weight by Aarn?
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 1:07 pm

Thanks Ice.

I'm pretty happy with Aarn's work so far... In fact I just ordered a pair of pacer poles .. The two section alloy/carbon hybrids. With the exchange rate they are less than $100 a pair delivered! Worth a try.

Btw, I've been told that he's really an Australian living in NZ. Makes sense. Lol.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby bailz66 » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 1:30 pm

$100 for a pair??? Where?
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby whynotwalk » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 1:41 pm

Just came back from a trip in the SW Cape area. Loaned my one-person Aarn Pacer 1 tent to one of the party, and she found it fantastic, even in the wind and wet that we experienced. I picked it up on special in the Backpacking Light store in Melbourne, and I use it for solo trip or for loan.

Here are a couple of pics (alongside my considerably heavier :roll: , but rather lovely Macpac Olympus),

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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 1:44 pm

bailz66 wrote:$100 for a pair??? Where?


You can find the link through aarnpacks.com, but it is...

Http://pacerpoles.com

£65 including airmail to Australia. PayPal came to $98.60 I think.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 4:45 pm

Miyata610 wrote:Ice, how do you plan to seem seal it? I have one of these bargains too, haven't even opened it yet but plan to this weekend.

I've used the glue type stuff on a gore tex jacket, back in the 70's but I'm hoping there is now a better way.


Anyone who's actually done the sealing job have any suggestions?



The pacer poles are great, nice handle (angle is smart) and means it just floats in your hand without actually having to grip it as you would a regular pole.


The only two reasons I don't own a pair are they are L/R so not so ergonomic/useful as single pole which I need when I am on easy alpine terrain in the mountains with axe in hand. And no flicklock style like BD. Also wonder how they would ski as they 'swing' very easily unlike a normal pole where you really have to 'pole' it if that makes sense.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 5:25 pm

Yeah I was wondering about skiing too. I'll let you know. :-)
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Tue 24 Jan, 2012 5:29 pm

whereas the BD Enduro CFs which I've had for about 7 yrs have seen me up and down mountains, bushwalking, and are my resort and backcountry ski poles, even adjustable for telemark.

Don't think the pacerpoles could pole plant due to the angle on the grip?
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Wed 25 Jan, 2012 12:22 pm

I got an email from Aarn saying don't bother to seam seal unless it leaks. Might just wait and see. Or hose it down.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Wed 25 Jan, 2012 5:31 pm

Miyata610 wrote:I got an email from Aarn saying don't bother to seam seal unless it leaks. Might just wait and see. Or hose it down.


So what's the tube for then? All the seams are sewn and untaped???
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Wed 25 Jan, 2012 5:31 pm

Miyata610 wrote:I got an email from Aarn saying don't bother to seam seal unless it leaks. Might just wait and see. Or hose it down.


So what's the tube for then? All the seams are sewn and untaped???
I'm going to do mine anyway once it's not so wet here
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Gusto » Wed 25 Jan, 2012 8:13 pm

I too had to remove the baskets on my walking poles for it to fit properly. That didn't phase me.

As for Seam sealing. Just gently squeeze the tube as you run it along the seams. use a brush or finger to smooth out the silicon on the seam. I was a little messy when I did it on mine, so I have a few thick spots and some blotches about on my tent. This doesn't damage the tent in any way so it's not of a concern to me.

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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Tue 31 Jan, 2012 9:08 am

Did the sealing-easy

Weighed the whole setup incl pegs 1800g post sealing.

Here are some initial thoughts (bear in mind I'm 188cm and run on the hot side body temp wise):

-fiddly (set up) for a tent (because it's more a tarp with an inner it's just that bit trickier for those people who are used to freestanding tents, esp with a upwind and downwind side and the trekking poles)
-big footprint (need to find more room to pitch BUT
-quite a small living space for the size of the footprint! The max width stated is only in the middle with more tapered heat and foot areas but sufficient
-integral pitch
-2? internal storage areas which I don't really use
-good vestibule space for storing wet gear if you want to use it (I don't)
...which means you get to know your tentmate well! and it's warmer
-low to the ground, which makes it great for wind and cold

all of which makes me think it's more 4 season with a preference towards more wx (Wind, cold than a hot Aussie summer)
...maybe I run a bit hot but found the ventilation was good but not great, even with the twin vents open on top...that was great when the wind picked up though).
-you really need 7 pegs minimum for a good pitch (though for a solo pitch you could possibly leave a tent pole at home esp if shorter)
-like the yellow colour
-one door ( not everybody likes that but I don't mind so long as I get the side away from the door..what I do prefer is a downwind door rather than a side door but I'll live)
-still 1800g (not UL) but manageable
-I don't see too many issues with the floor if you look after it but groundsheet would extend the life no doubt.

All in all, good lightweight tent/tarp IF more extreme wx. For those lighter/cruisier trips I'd go for something less sturdy but lighter, more along the lines of a Tarp Tent, which would save me another 600g or so (for a DR at a similar price when the Aarn is on sale).

That being said, I'd love to take this to the snow in howling weather and see how it goes...warm, low, no noise, great colour. As long as you can deal with the space and your partner, this is a winner for that purpose.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Thu 09 Feb, 2012 6:54 pm

Just used mine for an overnighter....

I like it a lot.

I like the way you can peg the door open with the elastic guy and it expands the vestibule for cooking but you can still close/zip it by stretching the guy. I like the little "peak" that velcros at the entrance. I like the ventilation. I like the pockets at both ends and at one side. I like the sturdiness you get from using trekking poles, you could probably stand on it.

It's a cosy double, I'd be happy to share the space with my spouse but not with a mate I think. Makes a super roomy single.

It rained last night, no leaks, and I didn't seal it. It has a big gap between inner and outer so contact leaks are unlikely.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Miyata610 » Fri 10 Feb, 2012 9:17 am

And I weighed it...

Without bags etc, and using six pegs ..... 1670g. After drying overnight, so 1650g may well be right.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Bluegum Mic » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 2:21 pm

Well I've got my mitts on the Pacer 1. Im taking this to tassie in a couple of weeks to give it a whirl. Ill add some more photos of it in action but here's a few pics to start. I thought Id post these as ages ago when researching this tent I found there was a serious lack of them.

Must say first time you pitch it you scratch your head a little, but once youve done it, its easy to pitch. Great design and feels very stable once up. Its quite breezy here today and it didn't move or flap at all.

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Door open and attached to clip
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Great feature-triangular flap and shock cord at bottom means you can peg the vestibule slightly open for foul weather cooking etc
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 3:54 pm

Very nice looking tent Bluegum Mic. If I ever have to purchase a lightweight one person tent, it will be between the Aarn tent or a Tarptent.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby phan_TOM » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 4:34 pm

& I bet every night in it is spent dreaming of bananas :lol:

I seriously wish every campsite was as luscious as that, looks nicer than my bed!
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Bluegum Mic » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 5:04 pm

Ha! Yes its a little 'plush' at present. If my yard was a campground you could save weight by leaving your air mat at home.

Phillip its an awesome tent though I have to wonder how suitable it will be here up north. This certainly (if I go ahead and purchase...which I must say is very tempting) would be only good for winter use in QLD. Even with the door open I was dripping. Mind you I wouldn't normally be in any tent in the middle of a 30* day ;-) that's what the hammocks for :-) But it is certainly a solid inner suited for 4 season stuff.

Your most welcome to take a look at it if we ever get around to a SE QLD walk n camp/hang.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 6:56 pm

Bluegum Mic wrote:Ha! Yes its a little 'plush' at present. If my yard was a campground you could save weight by leaving your air mat at home.

Phillip its an awesome tent though I have to wonder how suitable it will be here up north. This certainly (if I go ahead and purchase...which I must say is very tempting) would be only good for winter use in QLD. Even with the door open I was dripping. Mind you I wouldn't normally be in any tent in the middle of a 30* day ;-) that's what the hammocks for :-) But it is certainly a solid inner suited for 4 season stuff.

Your most welcome to take a look at it if we ever get around to a SE QLD walk n camp/hang.


I'll take you up on that offer, wouldn't mind taking a look at that tent. We should organise, in particular with other Hammock hangers in the area for a overnight hike. I'll be down your way in the next 3 to 5 weeks time.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby Bluegum Mic » Mon 19 Mar, 2012 2:49 pm

Couple more setup on my veranda (a few showers about and I needed to seam seal). One shot shows you the space under the fly with inner removed.

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One thing to consider for tropics use is I've cut a tyvek footprint shaped for the inner. Used with a bug net this would be a great all round tent as I think the S2S bug net would hang neatly from its internal clips.

Phillip catch up sounds great. Not sure re dates at the moment as I've got a bit on with tassy this week then BBW club walks coming up. Im also off to Vic in early May so perhaps late April or mid to late may??
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Mon 19 Mar, 2012 4:16 pm

Staying at the Gold Coast for upto two weeks from Easter Monday. On the 15th April, I plan to hike the Gold Coast hinterland Great Walk. Than back home for some work and back to Mt Walsh to do somemore off-track exploring, that place is magic. But don't wear your best clothes, you tend to get a bit shredded.

Early June I'm of to the Gold Coast hinterland again including Border Ranges, a week after that I'm leading a hike for the local bushwalking club on the Cononadale Range Great Walk at the Sunshine Coast Hinterland.

All in my Hammock of course. I hate sleeping on the ground, Last time I done that it put my back out, took a month to fully recover.

I've upgraded a lot of my gear in the past week, mostly back-pack and clothing, which has dropped my base pack weight to less than 8kg. Depends if I take any luxury's or not.

Might head of for a overnight hike in the next couple of days to test out my new gear. But that Hammock of mine is staying with me, no more tenting for me if I can help it. the opportunities opened in places to camp is a huge advantage. I've been to places, no way you can pitch a tent. Such as recently up the side of Mt Walsh, ground on a 45% angle with lot's of rocks and long grass.

I'm trying not to have to purchase a small tent if I can help it. The Overland Track is the only place I might need a small tent. I heard you can hire tents in Launceston, so I might look into that. If I have to purchase a tent it will be one like yours or a tarp tent.
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Mon 19 Mar, 2012 5:46 pm

Could you borrow a tent for that period? I'd imagine depending on when you go that the OT would be empty enough that you would happily end up in the hut anyway?
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby icemancometh » Wed 08 Aug, 2012 8:43 pm

well mine is finally gonna see some use this weekend outside the backyard. Will report back after it's done some time down in the snow !
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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby bailz66 » Thu 09 Aug, 2012 9:29 am

Taking my Pacer two to the snow on the 8th of Sep so very keen to hear how you go

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Re: Aarn Pacer 2 Tent

Postby whynotwalk » Thu 09 Aug, 2012 12:23 pm

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Aarn Pacer 2 in Pine Valley
We used our Pacer 2 tent at Pine Valley (Tas) earlier this winter. It was very cold and quite wet, and the tent site was boggy/soggy. We were glad we'd cut a Tyvek footprint, as the floor is a little on the flimsy side. Also glad we'd seam-sealed the beast to within an inch of its life!

Given that it was like camping in the coldest, wettest part of a very shady backyard, with a sprinkler spraying you most of the time, we were cosy and dry. I'd probably put emphasis on the cosy, as it's not an overly generous tent in terms of internal space. Just as well my wife and I like spending time together :) Overall it was a good test for a light and strong tent that performs more than adequately,

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