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TIP: The online Bushwalk Inventory System can help bushwalkers with a variety of bushwalk planning tasks, including: Manage which items they take bushwalking so that they do not forget anything they might need, plan meals for their walks, and automatically compile food/fuel shopping lists (lists of consumables) required to make and cook the meals for each walk. It is particularly useful for planning for groups who share food or other items, but is also useful for individual walkers.Re: BIG 4
Sun 18 Mar, 2012 8:30 pm
Hmmm, I'm not so sure that the 'Big 4' listed are really the Big 4... For the work I do, boots, pack and waterproof jacket (in that order) are the Big 3 - tents and sleeping mats don't really get much use...
So, my Big 3:
Boots - Zamberlan Baltoro
Pack - OP McMillan
Jacket - Paddy Pallin (the model name has worn away)
And the 'Big 4'
Tent: HIlleberg Soulo or WE First Arrow
Sleeping Bag - Kathmandu Rumdoodle
Pack - OP as above
Mat - Something old from Thermarest
So, my Big 3:
Boots - Zamberlan Baltoro
Pack - OP McMillan
Jacket - Paddy Pallin (the model name has worn away)
And the 'Big 4'
Tent: HIlleberg Soulo or WE First Arrow
Sleeping Bag - Kathmandu Rumdoodle
Pack - OP as above
Mat - Something old from Thermarest
Re: BIG 4
Wed 28 Mar, 2012 4:49 pm
Hm, I hadn't really been looking at weights too intensely before I started buying random things for camping/hiking, but now I think I should have spent a bit more time doing it. I don't have a pack yet, but the OP ones I was looking at average about 3kg. So!
Tent- MSR Hubba Hubba @ 2.2kg (including footprint)
Bag- OP Bungle -7 @ 1.2kg (I don't like being cold!)
Pad- Cheap foam thing @ .35kg
Pack- Probably OP @ 3kg
Total @ 6.75 - 7kg, assuming my scales are correct. But I could opt for a kilo lighter pack.. the benefits of not having made a purchase already.
When we went hiking in scouts the aim was to have your pack under 25kg for a few days walking, which I think I can do with this. But I see that in reality it should be closer to 15kg, which I think I can also do with this.
Is there a thread with a breakdown of peoples entire gear lists and weights? I would like to see what a full pack is coming to with cooking gear, etc.
Tent- MSR Hubba Hubba @ 2.2kg (including footprint)
Bag- OP Bungle -7 @ 1.2kg (I don't like being cold!)
Pad- Cheap foam thing @ .35kg
Pack- Probably OP @ 3kg
Total @ 6.75 - 7kg, assuming my scales are correct. But I could opt for a kilo lighter pack.. the benefits of not having made a purchase already.
When we went hiking in scouts the aim was to have your pack under 25kg for a few days walking, which I think I can do with this. But I see that in reality it should be closer to 15kg, which I think I can also do with this.
Is there a thread with a breakdown of peoples entire gear lists and weights? I would like to see what a full pack is coming to with cooking gear, etc.
Re: BIG 4
Wed 28 Mar, 2012 4:54 pm
Yeah, that's not a bad idea, I to would like to see a post showing all equipment with weights. If anyone starts one, I will post my gear with weights.
Re: BIG 4
Wed 28 Mar, 2012 6:27 pm
Phillipsart wrote:Yeah, that's not a bad idea, I to would like to see a post showing all equipment with weights. If anyone starts one, I will post my gear with weights.
Do a search. There are several on here.
Re: BIG 4
Wed 28 Mar, 2012 6:57 pm
There's an ipad/android app called Gram Weenie to keep track of the weight of your pack and contents.
MSR hubba
One Planet WBA
Thermarest Prolite (? Orange)
Bag - old down thing - need to upgrade
MSR hubba
One Planet WBA
Thermarest Prolite (? Orange)
Bag - old down thing - need to upgrade
BIG 4
Wed 28 Mar, 2012 7:02 pm
Hi
Check out the MSR Nook. Hilleberg Nallo size (but much smaller vestibule) and tips scales at 1.4-1.5 kilograms. Better tent than the Hubba Hubba or get the plus version if you can at 1.9 kilograms and better winter inner. Both are suitable for two normal adults but HH+ with twin vestibules better.
A OP Mungo is around 2.1 kilograms if you can fit into say 60 liters with lighter weight WBA options but this is not as tough.
Good checking out the weights before hand but do not miss the volume requirement either.
Cheers
Check out the MSR Nook. Hilleberg Nallo size (but much smaller vestibule) and tips scales at 1.4-1.5 kilograms. Better tent than the Hubba Hubba or get the plus version if you can at 1.9 kilograms and better winter inner. Both are suitable for two normal adults but HH+ with twin vestibules better.
A OP Mungo is around 2.1 kilograms if you can fit into say 60 liters with lighter weight WBA options but this is not as tough.
Good checking out the weights before hand but do not miss the volume requirement either.
Cheers
Re: BIG 4
Wed 28 Mar, 2012 9:06 pm
Pack - Osprey Aether 85
Warm weather
Tent - Hennessey Deep Jungle (hammock) with Cuben fly
Pad - 1/8 CCF cut to size (less than 200g) or nothing
Bag - Mountain Designs warm weather synthetic opened as a quilt
4.71kg (incl. pack)
Cold weather / snow
Tent - North Face Mountain 25 (replaced Macpac Olympus)
Pad - Standard blue CCF + Exped synmat UL (replaced thermarest)
Bag - Marmot Plasma 15 (replaced Macpac Solstice - Plasma 15 is much lighter and much better design though i never complained for warmth in the big solstice)
8.55kg (incl. pack and pegs/snow pegs)
Warm weather
Tent - Hennessey Deep Jungle (hammock) with Cuben fly
Pad - 1/8 CCF cut to size (less than 200g) or nothing
Bag - Mountain Designs warm weather synthetic opened as a quilt
4.71kg (incl. pack)
Cold weather / snow
Tent - North Face Mountain 25 (replaced Macpac Olympus)
Pad - Standard blue CCF + Exped synmat UL (replaced thermarest)
Bag - Marmot Plasma 15 (replaced Macpac Solstice - Plasma 15 is much lighter and much better design though i never complained for warmth in the big solstice)
8.55kg (incl. pack and pegs/snow pegs)
Re: BIG 4
Sat 31 Mar, 2012 4:14 pm
2-3season
Tent: Terra Nova SilTarp 3 + guylines (500g) + Ground Sheet (80g) (580g)
Pack: ULA CDT (550g)
Bag: Western Mountaineering Summerlite (525g)
Pad: Closed cell blue mat cut down to ¾ (200g)
Total: 1855g
3+ season
Tent: Mountain Hardwear Sprit 1 (1570g) or Mont Bivvy (1040g) + Tarp (500g)
Pack, Bag, Pad – as above (1275g)
Total: 2845g
4 season/Snow
Tent: Mountain Designs model unknown (3000g)
Pack: One Planet Shadow Pack (1520g)
Bag: Mont Glacier (1500g)
Pad: Thermarest (600g)
Total 6620!!! Some work to do here.
Tent: Terra Nova SilTarp 3 + guylines (500g) + Ground Sheet (80g) (580g)
Pack: ULA CDT (550g)
Bag: Western Mountaineering Summerlite (525g)
Pad: Closed cell blue mat cut down to ¾ (200g)
Total: 1855g
3+ season
Tent: Mountain Hardwear Sprit 1 (1570g) or Mont Bivvy (1040g) + Tarp (500g)
Pack, Bag, Pad – as above (1275g)
Total: 2845g
4 season/Snow
Tent: Mountain Designs model unknown (3000g)
Pack: One Planet Shadow Pack (1520g)
Bag: Mont Glacier (1500g)
Pad: Thermarest (600g)
Total 6620!!! Some work to do here.
Last edited by Gippsmick on Sat 31 Mar, 2012 5:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: BIG 4
Sat 31 Mar, 2012 5:15 pm
At the moment, this is my big 4:
1.Shelter- Outer Limits Hike Dome Backpacker Tent
2.Sleeping Bag- Outer Limits MicroSmart 270
3.Pack- OZtrail Sirocco 50L
4.Mat- Kathmandu Self Inflating Mat- Full Length
Great thread by the way.
Explorer_Sam
1.Shelter- Outer Limits Hike Dome Backpacker Tent
2.Sleeping Bag- Outer Limits MicroSmart 270
3.Pack- OZtrail Sirocco 50L
4.Mat- Kathmandu Self Inflating Mat- Full Length
Great thread by the way.
Explorer_Sam
Re: BIG 4
Mon 02 Apr, 2012 3:55 pm
1. Shelter: Darche Hybrid 1 person Ultralight Hiking Tent Shelter 1.25 kg as I can use it with my hiking poles.
2. Sleeping Bag: Recon 0'C from SoldierShop includes mosquito netting in the head space, its Synthetic (900 grams, I don't bother with the stuff sack).
3. Pack: Aarn Back Pack Essential Rapport. I love the front pockets and how you can access your food, drink, maps, camera and first aid kit without ever having to take off your main pack.
4. Pad: I combine a 6 ft Yellow Foam Mat (250g) And a Denali TREK HIKE SHORT MAT (500g). I find as I get older I need a bit more comfort.
2. Sleeping Bag: Recon 0'C from SoldierShop includes mosquito netting in the head space, its Synthetic (900 grams, I don't bother with the stuff sack).
3. Pack: Aarn Back Pack Essential Rapport. I love the front pockets and how you can access your food, drink, maps, camera and first aid kit without ever having to take off your main pack.
4. Pad: I combine a 6 ft Yellow Foam Mat (250g) And a Denali TREK HIKE SHORT MAT (500g). I find as I get older I need a bit more comfort.
Re: BIG 4
Tue 03 Apr, 2012 11:14 am
Some recent changes in the line-up are bringing the total weight down:
Tent: TarpTent Scarp 1: 1250g
Pack: Macpac Cascade 75: 3000g
Mat: Exped Synmat 7 UL M: 485g
Bag: MD Kashgar 75 or MD Ultra 500 + Thermolite Reactor: 1100 - 1150g
Total: 5885g
I dearly love my Cascade, but for overnighters (which are the majority of my treks) - it's overkill on the weight. There are a number of options available locally in the 40-45L range that would probably suffice, cutting the weight by ~1.5kg.
Also, a note on Mats. I'm onto my third now, from a 1kg Kathmandu self-inflating 3.8cm, to a MD 780g 3.8cm self-inflator to the Exped SynMat 7cm. I'm really kicking myself that I didn't spend the dollars on the Exped when they first came out, so light, so compact and being a side sleeper, infinitely more comfortable than any foam self-inflator.
Tent: TarpTent Scarp 1: 1250g
Pack: Macpac Cascade 75: 3000g
Mat: Exped Synmat 7 UL M: 485g
Bag: MD Kashgar 75 or MD Ultra 500 + Thermolite Reactor: 1100 - 1150g
Total: 5885g
I dearly love my Cascade, but for overnighters (which are the majority of my treks) - it's overkill on the weight. There are a number of options available locally in the 40-45L range that would probably suffice, cutting the weight by ~1.5kg.
Also, a note on Mats. I'm onto my third now, from a 1kg Kathmandu self-inflating 3.8cm, to a MD 780g 3.8cm self-inflator to the Exped SynMat 7cm. I'm really kicking myself that I didn't spend the dollars on the Exped when they first came out, so light, so compact and being a side sleeper, infinitely more comfortable than any foam self-inflator.
Re: BIG 4
Tue 03 Apr, 2012 1:00 pm
Hi, here's my big 4
Tent - Bibler Bombshelter, 4.2kg, but there are 4 of us (longing for a nallo4)
Pack - One Planet Elvis, 2.5kg
Bag - Mt Designs something or other, 1kg, but not nearly warm enough for Tassie, anyone got a bag to sell me??
Mat - Exped Synmat UL, my only lightweight bit of gear and also the only thing bought new!
And because there isn't much info on kids gear I thought I'd do the 1st kids big 4
Tent - yeah we let them sleep in the bombshelter with us, pity they can't help carry it!
Packs - cheap little Aldi toy packs that are just the right size and the straps stay on little shoulders. Will get better packs as they start to carry weight.
Bags - Mountain Hardwear Mountain Goat adjustable, synthetic, weigh around 1kg but good to minus 4. Can see these bags lasting a long time.
Mats - Pacific Outdoor Equipment kids mat, ok but they will outgrow them very soon and we will move to short adult mats. Probably should have done that from the start.
Some of you guys seem to upgrade rather frequently, hope it's not too contagious...
Eaglehawk
Tent - Bibler Bombshelter, 4.2kg, but there are 4 of us (longing for a nallo4)
Pack - One Planet Elvis, 2.5kg
Bag - Mt Designs something or other, 1kg, but not nearly warm enough for Tassie, anyone got a bag to sell me??
Mat - Exped Synmat UL, my only lightweight bit of gear and also the only thing bought new!
And because there isn't much info on kids gear I thought I'd do the 1st kids big 4
Tent - yeah we let them sleep in the bombshelter with us, pity they can't help carry it!
Packs - cheap little Aldi toy packs that are just the right size and the straps stay on little shoulders. Will get better packs as they start to carry weight.
Bags - Mountain Hardwear Mountain Goat adjustable, synthetic, weigh around 1kg but good to minus 4. Can see these bags lasting a long time.
Mats - Pacific Outdoor Equipment kids mat, ok but they will outgrow them very soon and we will move to short adult mats. Probably should have done that from the start.
Some of you guys seem to upgrade rather frequently, hope it's not too contagious...
Eaglehawk
Re: BIG 4
Fri 04 May, 2012 7:38 pm
Newest Big Four:
Pack - Hyperlite Mountain Gear (HMG) Porter. ~700g
Tent - Tarptent Scarp 1. ~1.4kg
Bag - One Planet custom Cocoon -5. ~700g
Pad - Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm. ~400g
TOTAL = ~3.2kg
The tent is the only place I could practically save weight, but even then I don't think I want to for Tassie.
I am really looking forward to getting out and about amongst it in the upcoming months.
Pack - Hyperlite Mountain Gear (HMG) Porter. ~700g
Tent - Tarptent Scarp 1. ~1.4kg
Bag - One Planet custom Cocoon -5. ~700g
Pad - Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm. ~400g
TOTAL = ~3.2kg
The tent is the only place I could practically save weight, but even then I don't think I want to for Tassie.
I am really looking forward to getting out and about amongst it in the upcoming months.
Re: BIG 4
Fri 04 May, 2012 9:46 pm
Tent : TN Laser Comp 1 with Tyvek groundcover
Bag : Montbell Super Spiral Downhugger #0 or old Kathmandu down Navigator(?)
Pack : OP WBA 60l
Mat : Neoair Reg, looking at Exped Downmat UL 7.
Bag : Montbell Super Spiral Downhugger #0 or old Kathmandu down Navigator(?)
Pack : OP WBA 60l
Mat : Neoair Reg, looking at Exped Downmat UL 7.
Re: BIG 4
Fri 04 May, 2012 10:04 pm
Robert H wrote:Newest Big Four:
Pack - Hyperlite Mountain Gear (HMG) Porter. ~700g
Tent - Tarptent Scarp 1. ~1.4kg
Bag - One Planet custom Cocoon -5. ~700g
Pad - Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm. ~400g
TOTAL = ~3.2kg
The tent is the only place I could practically save weight, but even then I don't think I want to for Tassie.
I am really looking forward to getting out and about amongst it in the upcoming months.
Hey Robert, how do you find the Porter? It's on my shortlist with the 2012 GG Gorilla...
Re: BIG 4
Sat 05 May, 2012 1:33 pm
Empacitator wrote:Hey Robert, how do you find the Porter?
To be honest I have not yet received it. It is a bit of an experiment for me (first lightweight 'frameless' pack as well as my first experience with cuben fibre), but the 15% off coupon they had last month made the decision easier. I will report back when I receive it
Re: BIG 4
Sun 17 Jun, 2012 1:39 am
1. Shelter: Gatewood Cape, 6 Moon Designs + Serenity Net tent+Pegs+Cordage+Tyvek Ground Sheet.
2. Sleeping Bag: Western Mountaineering HighLite.
3. Osprey Exos 46, Large.
4. Pad: Neo Air X-Lite Regular.
Total Weight= 3.3 Kg.
I think that's nice and light, can be used as a four season kit as long as it don't snow
Cheers.
2. Sleeping Bag: Western Mountaineering HighLite.
3. Osprey Exos 46, Large.
4. Pad: Neo Air X-Lite Regular.
Total Weight= 3.3 Kg.
I think that's nice and light, can be used as a four season kit as long as it don't snow
Cheers.
BIG 4
Sun 17 Jun, 2012 9:58 pm
Shelter: Warbonnet Blackbird Hammock, Warbonnet Superfly Tarp. Ropes and pegs.
1.6 kg
Sleeping: Warbonnet 3-season Yeti Underquilt
Hammock Gear -5 Burrow Top Quilt
1 kg
Pack: Gossamer Gear Mariposa 2012 backpack
765 grams
Total: 3.36 kg
1.6 kg
Sleeping: Warbonnet 3-season Yeti Underquilt
Hammock Gear -5 Burrow Top Quilt
1 kg
Pack: Gossamer Gear Mariposa 2012 backpack
765 grams
Total: 3.36 kg
Re: BIG 4
Fri 29 Jun, 2012 5:51 pm
Shelter: Sea to Summit Specialist Solo Extremely Lightweight Tent incl. pegs only, walking sticks as poles (500g)
Pack: Osprey Hornet 46 (700g)
Bag: Sea to Summit McIII (650g)
Pad: Neo Air (540g)
Total: 2.4kg
Pack: Osprey Hornet 46 (700g)
Bag: Sea to Summit McIII (650g)
Pad: Neo Air (540g)
Total: 2.4kg
Re: BIG 4
Sat 30 Jun, 2012 1:23 pm
Jeff78 wrote:Shelter: Sea to Summit Specialist Solo Extremely Lightweight Tent incl. pegs only, walking sticks as poles (500g)
How does this thing go out and about? I have seen it in the shops and thought it looks like a piece of paper keeping you between wet and dry. I have yet to meet anyone that owns one, so I was wondering if you could shed light on how well it performs?
Re: BIG 4
Sat 30 Jun, 2012 3:07 pm
Warmer weather:
Shelter: Tarptent Sublite (525g)
Pack: Osprey Atmos 50 (1580g)
Bag: Enlightened Equipment 4C Quilt (570g)
Pad: Exped Synmat UL7 (465g)
3.14kg
For colder weather sub in:
Tarptent Scarp (1400g)
Marmot Helium (1070g)
Totals to 4.52kg
Pretty happy with everything, might look at a lighter pack someday
Shelter: Tarptent Sublite (525g)
Pack: Osprey Atmos 50 (1580g)
Bag: Enlightened Equipment 4C Quilt (570g)
Pad: Exped Synmat UL7 (465g)
3.14kg
For colder weather sub in:
Tarptent Scarp (1400g)
Marmot Helium (1070g)
Totals to 4.52kg
Pretty happy with everything, might look at a lighter pack someday
Re: BIG 4
Sat 30 Jun, 2012 7:54 pm
For Tassie
Shelter: Black Diamond Squall (Black Diamond Stormtrack if going solo)
Pack: Deuter Air Contact 75 + 10
Bag: Marmot Lithium in winter, Marmot Helium for rest of the year
Pad: Thermarest NeoAir All Season
Don't think I will win the lightest gear arms race.
Shelter: Black Diamond Squall (Black Diamond Stormtrack if going solo)
Pack: Deuter Air Contact 75 + 10
Bag: Marmot Lithium in winter, Marmot Helium for rest of the year
Pad: Thermarest NeoAir All Season
Don't think I will win the lightest gear arms race.
Re: BIG 4
Wed 04 Jul, 2012 12:40 pm
This has been a great thread to read, and i've spent some happy late night hours sitting here with a nice red, fire going, researcing some of the gear you knowlegeable people have mentioned - many thanks!
I'm a novice overnight backpacker, and have a way to go it seems
Mat: Standard Kathmandu compact 595g
Bag: Kathmandu Altai 50L 1350g
Tent: Alps Zephyr II (2 person with fly) 2200g
Sleeping bag: unknown 25 year old down 1800g This seems to be the killer - was bought from Paddy Pallin when I was a uni student - i think I ate rice and tomato sauce for a month to buy it!
Total: 5.945kg
Mind you, hubby carries the tent so brings me down to 3.74kg - seems I could easy reduce this by 1100g or so with a sleeping bag upgrade!
We're going down into the Nattai again to walk the beginning of Starlight's Trail to camp overnight at Macarthur's Flat this weekend, so we'll see how efficiently we can get the two kids packed as well, and split the 2nd tent between us.
I'm a novice overnight backpacker, and have a way to go it seems
Mat: Standard Kathmandu compact 595g
Bag: Kathmandu Altai 50L 1350g
Tent: Alps Zephyr II (2 person with fly) 2200g
Sleeping bag: unknown 25 year old down 1800g This seems to be the killer - was bought from Paddy Pallin when I was a uni student - i think I ate rice and tomato sauce for a month to buy it!
Total: 5.945kg
Mind you, hubby carries the tent so brings me down to 3.74kg - seems I could easy reduce this by 1100g or so with a sleeping bag upgrade!
We're going down into the Nattai again to walk the beginning of Starlight's Trail to camp overnight at Macarthur's Flat this weekend, so we'll see how efficiently we can get the two kids packed as well, and split the 2nd tent between us.
Re: BIG 4
Tue 10 Jul, 2012 7:13 pm
Hope I'm not too late to add my big 4
Tent: Tarptent Contrail 850g
Pack: ULA ohm 650g
Mat: Thermarest Neo Air Trekker Torso size 450g
Sleeping Bag: Golite Ultra 550g
Tent: Tarptent Contrail 850g
Pack: ULA ohm 650g
Mat: Thermarest Neo Air Trekker Torso size 450g
Sleeping Bag: Golite Ultra 550g
Re: BIG 4
Tue 10 Jul, 2012 11:30 pm
No BPL here !
Exped Sirius extreme
macpac sanctuary 1000 XL bag
Marmot Muir 75l pack
Mont warmlite XL mat
Exped Sirius extreme
macpac sanctuary 1000 XL bag
Marmot Muir 75l pack
Mont warmlite XL mat
BIG 4
Thu 12 Jul, 2012 12:36 am
Phillipsart wrote:Shelter: Warbonnet Blackbird Hammock, Warbonnet Superfly Tarp. Ropes and pegs.
1.6 kg
Sleeping: Warbonnet 3-season Yeti Underquilt
Hammock Gear -5 Burrow Top Quilt
1 kg
Pack: Gossamer Gear Mariposa 2012 backpack
765 grams
Total: 3.36 kg
Update:
Shelter.... Warbonnet blackbird hammock. Cuben tarp. Ropes and pegs... 1.2kg
Sleep......Warbonnet yeti and hammock gear burrow quilt... 1kg
Pack......Gossamer gear mariposa 2012 pack...765 grams
TOTAL... 2.96 kg
Re: BIG 4
Mon 16 Jul, 2012 4:41 pm
This is how I roll
tent - Tarptent Scarp 1
bag - Exped Dreamwalker 250
pack - Osprey Kestriel 68
mat - Exped Synamat UL 7M
tent - Tarptent Scarp 1
bag - Exped Dreamwalker 250
pack - Osprey Kestriel 68
mat - Exped Synamat UL 7M
Re: BIG 4
Sat 01 Sep, 2012 9:16 am
With 5,037,431 new threads started on the equipment sub forum asking which this, that etc should I buy, being spring the gear acquisitions have obviously started in earnest! I thought it may be helpful to restart this old thread so people can peruse what others are using at the moment. My gear has pretty much changed since I last posted on this thread so here are my outdoor fashion accessories for this summer:
Mountain Designs Dedos 525 sleeping bag 1.1kg
Exped Synmat 0.45kg
Lightwave T10 Ultra XT tent 1.9kg
Macpac Glissade Pack 3kg
Mountain Designs Dedos 525 sleeping bag 1.1kg
Exped Synmat 0.45kg
Lightwave T10 Ultra XT tent 1.9kg
Macpac Glissade Pack 3kg
Re: BIG 4
Sat 01 Sep, 2012 10:22 am
stepbystep wrote:Tent - Scarp1 or Mountain Hardwear Light Wedge2
Pack - Mont Flyte 75+10
Bag - Denali 800 loft down(cheap, heavy, but warm)
Pad - Neo Air Regular
Good idea doogs! I've changed my set up a bit also. Perhaps some short notes on the items will help people also.
Tent - Scarp1 (1.5 or 1.9kg depending on setup) or Mountain Hardwear Light Wedge2 (2.4kg)
Pack - One Planet Mungo(2.5kg) or Macpac Cascade(3.6kg)
Bag - Rab Neutrino Endurance 400 = 900gms
Pad - Exped Synmat 7 UL = 450gms
I really like the look of Doogs' tent, will be very interested how it holds up after a year or so. I still like the Scarp but are coming around to the idea of a well designed tunnel tent. My Mountain Hardwear tent I wouldn't recommend given the choices available.
Their are well discussed issues with the Mungo in rugged conditions so I use the Cascade for those trips. I'm not 100% happy with the Cascade either. The Mungo is a fantastic pack for track walking.
My sleep system is near perfect now. I'm really happy with the Rab bag and the Synmat is far more comfortable than the neoair, which is still a great pad.
Re: BIG 4
Sat 01 Sep, 2012 11:24 am
Tent Version:
-TENT Tarptent Notch 840g
-PACK Gossammer Gear Mariposa Plus 680g
-BAG ZPacks LW 30F overfill 440g
-MAT Neo-air regular 410g
Total 2.37Kg
Hammock Version:
-HAMMOCK JRB BMB UL Hammock 900g
-TARP Zpacks Cuben 300g
-PACK Gossammer Gear Mariposa Plus 680g
-BAG ZPacks LW 30F overfill 440g
-UQ Leighlo's 380g
Total 2.7 Kg
Depending on trip and season, I may dip into my supply of alternatives, my trusty Scarp1, WM Ultralite, and/or my Aarn or Exos pack. Of course, these weights pale in comparison to the photo gear, but the whole catastrophe is at least getting lighter...
-TENT Tarptent Notch 840g
-PACK Gossammer Gear Mariposa Plus 680g
-BAG ZPacks LW 30F overfill 440g
-MAT Neo-air regular 410g
Total 2.37Kg
Hammock Version:
-HAMMOCK JRB BMB UL Hammock 900g
-TARP Zpacks Cuben 300g
-PACK Gossammer Gear Mariposa Plus 680g
-BAG ZPacks LW 30F overfill 440g
-UQ Leighlo's 380g
Total 2.7 Kg
Depending on trip and season, I may dip into my supply of alternatives, my trusty Scarp1, WM Ultralite, and/or my Aarn or Exos pack. Of course, these weights pale in comparison to the photo gear, but the whole catastrophe is at least getting lighter...
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