Nuts wrote:If you have a business you really should mention the association. If not then everything you do will be technically illegal, even portering and even food drops.
Nuts wrote:Illegal (at a regulation level) to make profit from any activities on reserved lands without a concession, parks, hydro, forestry.
Guide book authors or photographers are largely exempt (so far).
frenchy_84 wrote:Solohike74 is a she not a he strider
Strider wrote:Nuts wrote:Illegal (at a regulation level) to make profit from any activities on reserved lands without a concession, parks, hydro, forestry.
Guide book authors or photographers are largely exempt (so far).
Ah - I thought you were speaking from the perspective of requiring an ABN (which he does not). Thanks for clearing that up
Nuts wrote:Well, technically 'yes', to get a concession you need to have a registered business (or operate as a sole trader but that would not be a good idea), therefore an ABN
KANANGRABOYD wrote:I thought people would say " great good on you for doing this" - Not trying to put down this person/service and point out technical aspects, whic in all honesty, I don't see the state or Federal Govt persecuting.
Good on you for offering this Poerter service!
Are you big brother Nuts??? - Kind of wondering why you posted your comment, in all seriousness??????? Do you really care if someone is willing to carry gear into a place for a few extra bucks???
Sheesh!
Picaro wrote:The girl offered portering, not guiding. Someone else converted the thread to guiding.
If she has the wherewithall to carry a pack...fine.
Lets not get all namby pamby nanny state Pc about a lass trying to get along. All things being equal, I'd rather go bush with someone with guts rather than a certificate.
Miyata610 wrote:Some people on this forum DO go to the trouble of getting the required permissions and insurances to do this kind of work. It's a difficult and convoluted process requiring lots of documentation and justification. There are also many many rules and regulations to comply with.
A friendly reminder that these processes are necessary seems a very reasonable thing to do.
Edit: yes they do pursue it. Certainly in Tasmania.
doogs wrote:I am sure Solohike74 wasn't trying to put anyone out of a job with her offer or wanting to make a profit, merely some funding her forays into the wilderness areas. I can see the trekking and food drop folks getting a bit cheesed off with this proposition and I do understand their positions but there are examples of this sort of thing happening on the overland track on a regular basis. Should it be illegal for more inexperienced walkers to buy their more experienced friends an overland track pass to do the walk with them, surely this is a form of payment?
matagi wrote:doogs wrote:I am sure Solohike74 wasn't trying to put anyone out of a job with her offer or wanting to make a profit, merely some funding her forays into the wilderness areas. I can see the trekking and food drop folks getting a bit cheesed off with this proposition and I do understand their positions but there are examples of this sort of thing happening on the overland track on a regular basis. Should it be illegal for more inexperienced walkers to buy their more experienced friends an overland track pass to do the walk with them, surely this is a form of payment?
You can understand people getting a tad cheesed off when there are a number of guides and food droppers on the forum, none of whom advertise their services in public posts (although they may well do so via PM).
I don't know about elsewhere, but on the Overland Track, everybody knows everybody so if someone tries to start doing food drops or porterage or even guiding without the appropriate documentation then it will come to the attention of Parks and they are suprisingly tenacious in pursuing the matter.
stepbystep wrote:Well I've had friends come to the state, pay me for food/fuel etc and in exchange I have guided them on walks and supplied tents/gear etc. So sue meThere is no way they would have used services provided by nuts or miyata.
stepbystep wrote:I think Solohike, IF she doesn't have the appropriate permits was just being a touch naive, how about benefit of the doubt guys? Perhaps a case of the old 'she'll be right' Australian attitude, rather than chastise her publicly a subtly placed PM would have been more tactful. As it is you've probably chased someone off the forum who probably had no ill intent.
matagi wrote:stepbystep wrote:Well I've had friends come to the state, pay me for food/fuel etc and in exchange I have guided them on walks and supplied tents/gear etc. So sue meThere is no way they would have used services provided by nuts or miyata.
You have no idea of the bureaucratic can of worms which exists in Tas regarding this matter. Parks has some very interesting interpretations regarding duty of care if you are being paid for services, which are quite broad in their application and even extend so far as responsibility to individuals who are not part of your group.![]()
stepbystep wrote:Somehow I don't think you'd be all over it if you weren't involved in the biz nuts? Just think a moderator should deal with these matters privately, but hey I'm probably wrong, I'm used to that
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