New water filter system

[Giddy_up]

Just found this new filter system, looks really good and very light.

http://vapur.us/shop/filtration/explore ... icrofilter

[Strider]

No pore size specs?

[Giddy_up]

Absolute pore size of 0.2 micron.

[Giddy_up]

For cleaning, just place in the dishwasher.

[GPSGuided]

How does it automatically shuts off at the end of life? Interesting.

[Giddy_up]

How does it automatically shuts off at the end of life? Interesting.

I would imagine that once the pores become loaded with non removable matter you can no longer draw water through the system. That's how most filters work.

[GPSGuided]

The ad video suggested it's more than just that, a system where it would shut off the system from further use. Clogging tends to be progressive and it's not a shut off.

[Giddy_up]

Their features and facts section explains it clearly.

[bernieq]

I'm surprised at the 500 litre limit - why can it not be cleaned with reverse flushing like similar filters?

IMO, a better implementation of micropore technology is the Sawyer filters : http://www.sawyer.com/water.html#water1
0.1 micron, the 'Squeeze' filter (which I have) is rated for more than 1 million gallons ! (actually, it's unlimited because you can easily back-flush it to clean).

Although the Sawyer blurb says to squeeze the bag, I have a short length of tube connected to the outlet and into a bottle. Fill the bag and just stand on it - filtered water flows at 1+ litre per minute with no efort. Brilliant.

[wildernesswanderer]

Just curious, if you have murky crappy water do these filters clean the water as well. What about taste, do they take the taste out?

[Giddy_up]

I don't think that either of the two mentioned here will remove taste from the water, but they will certainly remove any suspended particles down to their micron size.

[GPSGuided]

IMO, a better implementation of micropore technology is the Sawyer filters : http://www.sawyer.com/water.html#water1
0.1 micron, the 'Squeeze' filter (which I have) is rated for more than 1 million gallons ! (actually, it's unlimited because you can easily back-flush it to clean).

Only if you believe their advertising. 1M gallons may be proper in a continuous clean lab environment. In the real world (like hydration bladders), mildew and other surface contaminants will invariably invade over time. There'll be a time when cleaning and back flushing will no longer do. Better to consider them to be a throw away item.

[GPSGuided]

I don't think that either of the two mentioned here will remove taste from the water, but they will certainly remove any suspended particles down to their micron size.

Absolutely. Taste has to do with the chemicals in the water and these physical filters have no effect on them. Those molecules are way too small for these. As such, these are no good if the water has heavy metal as well as other chemical pollutants.

[Strider]

Just curious, if you have murky crappy water do these filters clean the water as well. What about taste, do they take the taste out?

You need to prefilter first if heavy sediment load. Taste is usually dissolved, so no.

[vorpal]

I sent the team at Vapur Australia an email about availability of the item and they said it won't be available outside of the US until February 2014. I quite like the idea, but I'm put off by the 500L limit. That really is nothing when you think about it, and on the website it says that replacement filters aren't currently available and you need to buy the whole kit again. At $70USD, that's one expensive kit....

+1 Sawyer Squeeze.

[jacko1956]

+2for Sawyer Squeeze.
I have Aqua Mira drops as backup but my son rigged up our sawyer squeeze with a platypus bag and tube and we now hang the bag and the water drips through the squeeze.
By using the clip that comes with the platypus we can clip the squeeze to the top of the bag and effectively "turn off the tap".
We fill the 2 litre platypus, hang it and just let it feed into a bottle or pot, turning it off by clipping it back to the top of the bag.

[Strider]

+3 Sawyer Squeeze.

500L limit is a serious shortfall.

[Strider]

+2for Sawyer Squeeze.
I have Aqua Mira drops as backup but my son rigged up our sawyer squeeze with a platypus bag and tube and we now hang the bag and the water drips through the squeeze.
By using the clip that comes with the platypus we can clip the squeeze to the top of the bag and effectively "turn off the tap".
We fill the 2 litre platypus, hang it and just let it feed into a bottle or pot, turning it off by clipping it back to the top of the bag.

Do you have any idea how he managed to make the platypus bottles fit the squeeze?

[jacko1956]

I'll check when I see him next (he works shift) but I gather it has to do with a rubber washer and which model of platypus bottle or sawyer squeeze you get (you need one of them to be a "later" model I thin)k. Stupidly they don't have matching threads but it does work.
I'll get info from him and try and get some pics up later this week.
Worked really well having water "on tap" so to speak around the camp. Even without the filtering benefit it was worth doing for convenience.

[wildernesswanderer]

Where did you guys buy your Sawyer filters from, I can't seem to find them in Australia

[icefest]

Where did you guys buy your Sawyer filters from, I can't seem to find them in Australia

Amazing what happens when you use search: viewtopic.php?p=198325#p198325

[Strider]

Highwater Filters were the cheapest I found.

[wildernesswanderer]

Thanks just ordered one from Highwater Filters