neilmny wrote:wayno wrote:when the yolk gets hard boiled the cholesterol is changed into oxycholesterol which can damage body tissues like artery walls.
Can you point me to the source of this information?
LandSailor wrote:And perhaps why Dr Aseem Molhatra, a cardiologist from the UK made the point "eight million Britons take statins yet there has been no major impact on heart disease trends".
wayno wrote:when the yolk gets hard boiled the cholesterol is changed into oxycholesterol which can damage body tissues like artery walls.
GPSGuided wrote: An alternative and just as plausible scenario being, because the use of statin under NHS is well regulated to those high risk patients, those with pre-existing CV diseases
corvus wrote:Having a familial high cholesterol count I often said to my several GP's at the time nah ! I don't want to take those drugs to fix it I will use exercise and diet for that![]()
Fast forward to my recent cholesterol induced heart problem 95% blockage (missed the heart attack only just) and had the big stent inserted and proscribed a Statin drug by the Cardiologist ,result is a lower bad and higher high good cholesterol count so I for one will continue with this medication .
Just wish those of you with so little knowledge about this other than hearsay and hyperbole can take a deep breath and ask yourselves if taking Statins would save your own life would you use them![]()
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matagi wrote:Corvus, if you have familial hypercholesterolaemia, you are in a different category.
The thing that really gets up my nose is this "good" cholesterol and "bad" cholesterol concept. The person who coined that ought to be shot. The body makes both high density and low density lipoproteins. LDL (or "bad" cholesterol) as it is known is how cholesterol is delivered to cells, and cells need cholesterol to keep their cell membranes fluid, so it is in fact essential.
As with all things pertaining to the human body, heart disease is multifactorial so singling out one factor to the exclusion of all else is quite wrongheaded and poor medicine to boot.
matagi wrote:.......As with all things pertaining to the human body, heart disease is multifactorial so singling out one factor to the exclusion of all else is quite wrongheaded and poor medicine to boot.
Picaro wrote:Strange, it comes up for me….I'll see if I can sort it out.
Picaro wrote:Strange, it comes up for me….I'll see if I can sort it out.
Picaro wrote:Strange how these computer thingies work. I copied a link to the article and that works, but copying the browser address doesn't.
Yeah, I thought it was interesting. The Scandinavians and also the Japanese do some good work in these fields.
New data from the Australian Heart Foundation shows the weight of the average Australian adult has increased by more than 5.7kgs over the past 25 years.
The foundation says the average weight of an Australia man is now 85.9kg, up 6.5kg, while the average woman is 5.7kg heavier at 71.1kg.
It has used the figures to warn of a rapid spike in diabetes, heart disease and cancer, unless growing rates of obesity are brought under control.
Robert Grenfell from the Heart Foundation says it is a major concern that two in three people fall outside the healthy weight range.
"Every two in three Australians is now either overweight or obese," he said.
"Now this, of course, is alarming because the diseases that are a consequence of this [include] diabetes, heart disease and some cancers.
"We're going to see a rapid increase in these diseases over the next 10 to 20 years if nothing happens."
Dr Grenfell says the proportion of obese adults has tripled since 1980.
"We've nearly got half a million Australians and they are what we call morbidly obese and that is a BMI of over 40 and they are at extreme risk of an early death from any of those diseases," he said.
"But again from 1980, where 60 per cent were at normal, healthy weight, we now only have 35 per cent of Australians.
"This of course is a message that we really need to do something about this."
Picaro wrote:Note the correlation with the dates. When the big cholesterol scare and the saturated fat malarky started in the '70s, folk were told go low fat, eat more grains and carbs and all manner of processed and fast foods.....and folk start getting fat and auto immune disease rates sky rocket.
icefest wrote:Correlation =/= Causation
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