Equipment list

[jfullertonharvey]

Hi just finished my equipment list on the Bushwalk inventory system. Total weight of 8.4kg. Any suggestions to save weight, things i don't need/do need would be highly appreciated. Note, this is a non alpine kit and Not including clothes
Rusksack - Mont Flyte - 2.6kg
Sleeping bag - 1kg
Shelter - Exped aries mesh - 2.9kg
cooking kit - MSR quick 2 system + skillet - 0.8kg
First aid kit - equip pro 1 - 355g
Jetboil fuel canister - 107g
Sleeping mat - Exped Synmat 7m - 850g
Trowel - Sea to Summit Pocket Trowel - 100g
Towel - Sea to summit DryLite Microfibre towel - 100g
Headlamp - Led Lenser SEO 3 - 96g
Survival kit - altos tin
Compass
Dry sacs x 3 - Exped - 223g(total)
Windshield

Other things
Water Purification tablets
cutlery
emergency blanket
Repair Kit
rubbish bag
whistle
toiletries
Smoke Flare
PLB
toilet paper roll

[paul_gee]

Hi just finished my equipment list on the Bushwalk inventory system. Total weight of 8.4kg. Any suggestions to save weight, things i don't need/do need would be highly appreciated. Note, this is a non alpine kit and Not including clothes
Rusksack - Mont Flyte - 2.6kg
Sleeping bag - 1kg
Shelter - Exped aries mesh - 2.9kg
cooking kit - MSR quick 2 system + skillet - 0.8kg
First aid kit - equip pro 1 - 355g
Jetboil fuel canister - 107g
Sleeping mat - Exped Synmat 7m - 850g
Trowel - Sea to Summit Pocket Trowel - 100g
Towel - Sea to summit DryLite Microfibre towel - 100g
Headlamp - Led Lenser SEO 3 - 96g
Survival kit - altos tin
Compass
Dry sacs x 3 - Exped - 223g(total)
Windshield

Other things
Water Purification tablets
cutlery
emergency blanket
Repair Kit
rubbish bag
whistle
toiletries
Smoke Flare
PLB
toilet paper roll

Are you looking at replacing any of the the gear? Or just concessions that can come about by dropping gear?

You could save a hundred or so grams by buying lighter dry sacks or doing away with them completely. I use a pack liner and store knick-knacks in my top pocket in a zip lock or two.

What sort of sleeping bag do you have? What's it rated at? Also, your sleeping mat. If you're prepared to drop your R-value, you can probably save a few hundred grams by investing in a Sea to Summit - there are a few threads here that I have been involved in on these mats.

[Mark F]

Your big 3 (sleeping, shelter and carrying) are 7.35 kg so lots of room to reduce weight here but at a cost. For comparison my (UL) set up for the big 3 is just on 2kg. I wouldn't expect you to get to this sort of weight unless you embrace UL but you should be looking to knock 2 to 3 kg off in this area. 1kg each on the pack and tent and over 500g on the sleeping set up would not be too hard, too extreme or compromise your comfort or safety.

[wayno]

depends where you're walking and time of year and exactly what model of sleeping bag you're using.

[jfullertonharvey]

Your big 3 (sleeping, shelter and carrying) are 7.35 kg so lots of room to reduce weight here but at a cost. For comparison my (UL) set up for the big 3 is just on 2kg. I wouldn't expect you to get to this sort of weight unless you embrace UL but you should be looking to knock 2 to 3 kg off in this area. 1kg each on the pack and tent and over 500g on the sleeping set up would not be too hard, too extreme or compromise your comfort or safety.

the equipment is for the worst weather in a non alpine environment, thats why my tent is so heavy.
paul_gee, would be willing to replace any gear
Mark F, how do you get away with such a light set-up. what if the weather took a turn for the worst?. and i am looking for a tough rucksack that will last a lot longer, any other ideas in that area

[Moondog55]

Delete the smoke flare unless you really are expecting a helo pick-up
Small sharp knife and a titanium spork should do the cutlery thing at very little weight
So you are talking winter and 5C to -5C?
Biggest weight saving would be getting a lighter tent as that is a lot of tent for solo use
good for 2 up tho

[Alittleruff]

My gear-
Pack- 2.3kg Black Wolf Bugaboo 70+10
Sleeping Bags- Kathmandu Pathfinders, One L, one reg. .83kg, .72kg
Tent- Kathmandu Larsen 1.7kg
Sleeping Bag liners- .14g x2
Sleeping Mat- Upgrading to S2S UL Insulated, L & Reg, 540g & 440g

Total for the big 3- 6.81kg

Cooking
Pot- 148g
Cups- Insulated stainless steel mugs from Aussie Disposals- 254g (can probably do better here, I'd love to find a stack-able option that is lighter)
Bowls x2- Plastic ones often used for freezer ect, 28g for both.
Spoon/Fork/Knife for 2- 12g (came out of a pack from Officeworks, very happy with them, fold down in 1/2)
Knife sharp- Pocket knife 107g
Fuel- 316g
Burner- 142g
Rubbish bag 5g (zip lock bag lge)
Matches 8g
Scourer 8g
Soap (pure) 26g
Face washer size microfiber cloth- 37g

Total Cooking- 1.091kg

First Aid & Hygiene
First Aid Kit- 335g (includes triangular bandage, band aids, meds, emergency blanket, scissors, tape, sunscreen, bushmans, paw paw ointment, lip balm, crepe bandages, first aid kit instructions, paper, pencil, non adhesive dressings, safety pins, hydration tabs and I think there may be a few other items)
Toilet paper & Shovel- 113g. Toilet paper is rolled off the toilet roll, and put in a zip lock bag, old kids size garden trowel. In zip lock bag.
Hygine- 123g tooth brush x2, toothpaste x2, hand sanitize, tissues & a comb.
Hankie & headlamp- 74g (weighed them together lol)
Other head lamp- 87g

Total First Aid & Hygiene- 0.732kg

Total all up with the exception of below- 8.633kg Keep in mind, this is for 2 people.

Then of course there are the things you throw in, camera, spare knikers, socks, thermals, beanie & a jacket. + what you are wearing.

And, food & water.

[Alittleruff]

On the pack side of things, I've been eyeing off these. Really good reviews, quite light weight, good brand.
http://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/osprey- ... ck/OSP0388

But need to make sure that you have the right size & have the money! LOL.

Anyway, also spied this in my searching regarding food. Looks good. Very lazy way to go. But hey! Lazy is sometimes a nice option. Around 800g per ration pack day.
https://www.strivefood.com.au/ration-packs/

[north-north-west]

The Strive meals aren't the lightest, but they are very filling and tastier than anything else around. Also the best value. If you make yourself a pot cosy (there's an instruction thread in here somewhere) you'll use only a tiny bit more gas than it takes to boil the water.

[jfullertonharvey]

On the pack side of things, I've been eyeing off these. Really good reviews, quite light weight, good brand.
http://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/osprey- ... ck/OSP0388

But need to make sure that you have the right size & have the money! LOL.

Anyway, also spied this in my searching regarding food. Looks good. Very lazy way to go. But hey! Lazy is sometimes a nice option. Around 800g per ration pack day.
https://www.strivefood.com.au/ration-packs/

the pack would be to small, would need at least 70l for days for 5+ day hikes.
Have looked at the osprey packs before, do you think they are tough enough to last a longer time such as the aether of atoms?

[jfullertonharvey]

Delete the smoke flare unless you really are expecting a helo pick-up
Small sharp knife and a titanium spork should do the cutlery thing at very little weight
So you are talking winter and 5C to -5C?
Biggest weight saving would be getting a lighter tent as that is a lot of tent for solo use
good for 2 up tho

Yes thats about right for winter. but prepared for high winds and rainfall
And i am taking another person with me

[kitty]

On the pack side of things, I've been eyeing off these. Really good reviews, quite light weight, good brand.
http://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/osprey- ... ck/OSP0388

Alittleruff - check out the weight range for that pack (the green) - its only going to be comfortable up to about 10kg.
Once you add water and food (and other things as you mention) to your gearlist you will exceed 10kg.
For the pack to be comfortable your gear (including the pack) should not exceed the weight range of the pack.
As mentioned in some other threads, the pack should probably be one of the last items you replace.

[kitty]

and i am looking for a tough rucksack that will last a lot longer, any other ideas in that area

Check out the Aarn body packs - if you can, its definitely worth trying one on in a shop, weighted up, to see how different the weight distribution and harness is compared to all other packs. They don't suit everyone, but some people love 'em. Most comfortable pack Ive owned. They have "Ultralite" and "Stronglite" versions with differing fabrics and designs.

[Moondog55]

Then shared the tent weight is about right and I assume the other person carries an appropriate share of the cooking gear

[Alittleruff]

Thanks Kitty for the heads up I'll replace it last.

Just a thought- If my daughter/son was able to carry some gear. Sleeping bag, mat, cup & I was to swap over by bag to the Osprey one, my child would carry around 1.64kg + bag (other hiking bag weighs 1.31kg)+ their clothes + 600mL water bottle. So around 5kg at the most.
I would then end up with a load of 6.023kg (with the new Osprey bag) + food + water + some clothing.

Yep, if around 800g per day per person for food... I'd get over 10kg.

Kitty, you got the smarts! Thank you. I'll stick with my heavier, bigger volume bag for now.

[kitty]

Im not smart - Im just repeating what other people have already mentioned on the forum - but thx anyway