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Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby Drifting » Sun 17 Apr, 2011 4:46 pm

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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby whiskeylover » Sun 17 Apr, 2011 8:10 pm

They've been found, alive and well. Lost near Lake Myrtle. There was some confusion over where they were planning to walk. A good lesson on telling someone your plans. Also not sure how experienced they were and whether they had a map and compass. Lucky for them it was good weather, just a bit chilly/frosty overnight.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby Paul » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 12:09 am

My understandig - no map, no compass. !

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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby MJD » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 12:33 pm

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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby Son of a Beach » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 12:46 pm

So who do we believe... the ABC, who says they were lost, or the Examiner, who says there was a medical issue? :-)
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby sthughes » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 1:08 pm

It's een perfect weather over the weekend, so they did well to get lost near Lake Myrtle if they are indeed experienced. The Advocate mentioned a medical condition, which made me wonder were they not able to walk out and hence headed for the beach to make the choppers job easy??

No map and no experience in the area might explain too?
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby sthughes » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 1:09 pm

Son of a Beach wrote:So who do we believe... the ABC, who says they were lost, or the Examiner, who says there was a medical issue? :-)

Fairfax or ABC? On most issues that would be an easy question, but for a local non-political story who knows?
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby Paul » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 2:06 pm

Believe what was said, they were totally disorientated ( lost ) and 1 of them lives with a medical complaint.

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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby corvus » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 5:56 pm

What I read was that they were located South of Lake Myrtle which makes me think they were attempting the Jacksons Creek Track which is for those of you who know it not the easiest to follow.
Otherwise on Moses Creek Track between the end of Cloister and Junction Lake can also be a bit confusing if not experienced despite it being well marked on the Maps.
Medical condition ?? what sort as those us over sixty have plenty to choose from most of which are manageable to allow us to walk in and out thankfully :lol:
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby shazcol » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 9:59 am

The latest installment in there own words.
http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news/loca ... 37972.aspx
If common sense is so common, why don't you see more of it?
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby ollster » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 10:32 am

Well, reading through that, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

Changed plans without telling anyone, no experience in those sort of walking conditions (judging by the comments about walking in th WoJ for many years, which is pretty much a highway) and no navigational equipment.

I think being in their 60s is the least of their problems.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby photohiker » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 11:09 am

And they're going to get a GPS now, so all will be well. haha. With their performance to date there will be no surprise when they follow the GPS for a long walk on a short pier.

Amazing that at age 62, they have managed to avoid maps for so long.

Even more amazing is that the media has identified the people by name and workplace. Someone ring him up and point him to this thread. :D
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby johnw » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 2:00 pm

:? Has the content changed in that last link or have I missed something?
..."said he told work colleagues he was going to the Walls of Jerusalem and doesn't know how the message got mixed up"

Also no mention of getting a GPS that I can see?
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby sthughes » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 2:05 pm

BUSHWALKERS who spent two nights lost in the bush said they would purchase a GPS before embarking on another wilderness adventure.


First paragraph :wink:
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby johnw » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 2:32 pm

sthughes wrote:
BUSHWALKERS who spent two nights lost in the bush said they would purchase a GPS before embarking on another wilderness adventure.


First paragraph :wink:

Doh :oops:! Thanks :).
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby stepbystep » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 2:36 pm

Couple of issues.
Firstly, there was obviously some sort of mixup as to where they were going, don't know about you but I leave a written description of my walk, campsites and sidetrips with my wife, if I was unmarried these would be left with someone I trusted, not verbally to a 'work colleague'.
Secondly, no map and presumably no compass AND no GPS AND no PLB is a pretty silly combination of oversights for anyone, especially someone with the wisdom that should go with 62 years on the planet.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby tastrax » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 5:10 pm

:oops: :oops: Judging by the colour of the jumper and shirt I also suspect I know which government agency he works for... :oops: :oops:
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby gayet » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 5:27 pm

tastrax wrote::oops: :oops: Judging by the colour of the jumper and shirt I also suspect I know which government agency he works for... :oops: :oops:



Surely not Parks and Wildlife??? :roll:

Are you going to suggest a refresher in bushwalking safety?
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby north-north-west » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 6:45 pm

tastrax wrote::oops: :oops: Judging by the colour of the jumper and shirt I also suspect I know which government agency he works for... :oops: :oops:


Ahhhhhh, perhaps I'm being judgmental, but it sounds like a hefty dose of overconfidence. Silly old bugger.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby north-north-west » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 6:48 pm

Mr Cummings said he'd never been so glad as when the Westpac Rescue Helicopter flew over them on Sunday afternoon.


Odd, the recue/police chopper flew low over me on Sunday arvo, but I was nowhere near the Walls, honest, guv.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby taswegian » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 6:53 pm

from experience as 'a silly old bugger' and hopefully wiser for it (from being a silly old bugger) I've come to believe only 1/2 of what I see and far less of what I read about in the news/ papers etc.
The truth is often far from the 'reality' presented.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby Azza » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 7:13 pm

taswegian wrote:from experience as 'a silly old bugger' and hopefully wiser for it (from being a silly old bugger) I've come to believe only 1/2 of what I see and far less of what I read about in the news/ papers etc.
The truth is often far from the 'reality' presented.


Definately agree there... having sort of been on the receiving end of some bad journalism.. they just want to sell papers, the truth is never as interesting as the story they create.
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby johnat » Fri 22 Apr, 2011 8:59 pm

stepbystep wrote:Couple of issues.
Firstly, there was obviously some sort of mixup as to where they were going, don't know about you but I leave a written description of my walk, campsites and sidetrips with my wife, if I was unmarried these would be left with someone I trusted, not verbally to a 'work colleague'.
Secondly, no map and presumably no compass AND no GPS AND no PLB is a pretty silly combination of oversights for anyone, especially someone with the wisdom that should go with 62 years on the planet.

62 years could easily be the same year's experiences repeated 62 times!
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Re: Hikers missing in the Northwest

Postby Liamy77 » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 9:08 am

photohiker wrote:And they're going to get a GPS now, so all will be well. haha. With their performance to date there will be no surprise when they follow the GPS for a long walk on a short pier.

Amazing that at age 62, they have managed to avoid maps for so long.

Even more amazing is that the media has identified the people by name and workplace. Someone ring him up and point him to this thread. :D


with that kinda lack of planning and equipment i think its amazing they reached their 60s at all! - joking..... mostly :!:
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