Enlightened Equipment Quilts

[Ellobuddha]

Ordered

[photohiker]

Did it arrive?

I'm looking at one of the new Revolution Pro quilts with 850FP Down. Almost made my mind up but the thing I'm not sure about is whether to buy one with extra length or not.

There is hardly any weight, price or packed size differences. Are there any disadvantages in getting a quilt 6" longer than you need?

[Strider]

I went for the 6" and I am only 5'6". The extra length is enough to snuggle down with the quilt around my ears if needed. I am happy with my decision.

Are you in Hobart PH?

[photohiker]

I went for the 6" and I am only 5'6". The extra length is enough to snuggle down with the quilt around my ears if needed. I am happy with my decision.

Are you in Hobart PH?

Thanks for the response. No, I'm in SA. I was in Hobart last month

[photohiker]

And ordered... Between Strider and other comments online and Tim's email, I've chosen the long.

Rev Pro reg/long with 850FP goose down, 10d body with 20d stripes top and bottom.

2-3 weeks in the making and probably as long in the delivering. Could be here mid May.

[Ellobuddha]

Ive been away for a week but it has arrived.

Only had a quick set up on my mat but it looks excellent. Got into it and had a few tosses and turns and was far more comfortable to me than a bag. Clipped ip the neck and drawstring and lasted about 5 mins before I could feel myself starting to sweat do it should I should be cosy as this season.

Will post some pics up soon.

[Giddy_up]

Ive been away for a week but it has arrived.

Only had a quick set up on my mat but it looks excellent. Got into it and had a few tosses and turns and was far more comfortable to me than a bag. Clipped ip the neck and drawstring and lasted about 5 mins before I could feel myself starting to sweat do it should I should be cosy as this season.

Will post some pics up soon.

Ellobuddha, what rated quilt did you end up getting for your planned snow trips, 10 f or did you go down to 0 f to be safe.

[Ellobuddha]

I went with the 0 degree, standard length and went with the wide option. Im 95kg, just under 6 foot with big shoulders. Plenty of room in the wide with enough length in standard ( as per recommendation from Tim at EE) 20d outer and 850 DT.

As stated it was super warm with neck cinched but when opened right out was comfy and warm sitting on lounge. Thats why I went with the Revelation for the versatility.

Trying to load some shots now.

[Ellobuddha]

Apologies if any are upside down. I have used an ipad and it plays with the orientation. They all appear the right way up when I look at them.

[photohiker]

Looking good there.

How will the straps work with the pad outside the bivy?

[Giddy_up]

Gosh that is looking nice, these cottage manufacturers are certainly doing some quality work. Great choice from what I can see.

[Ellobuddha]

Looking good there.

How will the straps work with the pad outside the bivy?

There are a second set of straps you can wrap just around yourself (softer ones) as another option, though I think the mat attachments would be better for a restless sleeper like me.

I will only use the bivy when using a tarp which is rare but plan on putting the mat inside it. Ive got a cuben groundsheet it can all sit on if really needed. Ive got a duomid on order so planned setup is cuben sheet with mat and quilt.

It really is an impressive bit of kit. Very happy with the purchase.

[Mark F]

I am planning to make a winter quilt. Could somebody who has a Enlightened Equipment Revelation Pro quilt kindly tell me the length and width (across the top) of their quilt when tightly stretched out (to ascertain the fabric length) and the size they purchased.

I made my own 3 seasons quilt which is adequately sized but I think it could be a bit smaller, especially in length, but it is near impossible to work out whether I can cut down a bit just by snuggling under it and seeing how it drapes. I made it with a full taper and will move to a half taper for the winter quilt.

[Giddy_up]

Hi Mark, not sure but I think this is what your after.



Adult top quilts are offered in three lengths to fit nearly any size user:



Short is recommended for users up to 5′6″ tall (maximum user height 5'8")



Regular is recommended for users up to 6’ tall (maximum user height 6'2")



Long is recommended forr users up to 6’6″ tall (maximum user height 6'8")



*if you desire to cover your head size up one length*







Adult top quilts are offered in four widths to cover all user sizes and applications:



Slim is well suited to hammock users, back sleepers, slimmer side sleepers, and users who have a slim or athletic build. 50″head half tapered to 38″foot.



Regular is best suited to users who sleep either in a hammock or on a ground pad on their backs, side sleepers, and slimmer users that toss and turn in the night. 54″ head half tapered to 40″ foot.



Wide is best suited to larger users who sleep either in a hammock or on a ground pad, larger side sleepers, and users that toss and turn in the night. 58″ head half tapered to 42″ foot.



Xwide is best suited to the largest users who sleep either on a ground pad, largest side sleepers, and large users that toss and turn in the night. 64″ head half tapered to 46″ foot.



*quilts are half tapered for maximum coverage*

[Mark F]

Hi giddy_up

I know the stated sizes from the EE web site but I am trying to ascertain the fabric length and width used to make, say, a regular wide - particularly length. The unknown are how the stated dimensions are measured. Is it the width/length with the fabric tensioned to reduce the undulations of the lofted channels or is the quilt measured lofted with the curvature of each channel reducing the width/length. The difference can be 10cm or so. Particularly with length, the quilt needs to be longer than the person it fits but how much longer? I can scale up or down once I know the dimensions for a quilt of a known size.

[simonm]

Mark - I had a short RevX and I think it was 72 inches long, and the regular was 76inches I think ???

[simonm]

Sorry just re-read your post and you were after a bit more precise measurements than that.

[icefest]

I really appreciate this thread. Thanks for posting everyone.

I think I know what winter quilt I'll be getting when I need one.

[Ellobuddha]

Mark,

I will try to get you some measurements from my standard length and wide width quilt in the next few days. Im stuck on dirty nightshifts so a little poor on time.

I will be up at Kozi next weekend if you are going to be walking in the area. You are more than welcome to inspect the quilt as much as you like. It may help you to work out an allowance for baffling etc.Will PM you some measurements ASAP.

Paul

[Mickl]

Hi all

almost ready to bite the bullet on buying a EE quilt after trying to get comfy in a sleeping bag for years but just not being able to (unless its laid open like a quilt It seems new is the way to go as no one appears to sell them second hand which makes me think they are a good piece of kit that people hold onto....

I have emailed EE and got the answers to most of my questions (great customer service so far) but just wanted to clarify a couple of things with people that use them is Oz conditions... I'm in SA and will mostly be using in the cooler months...

Firstly how accurate do people find the temp ratings? I'm thinking of going for the 20F model which is probably lower than I need generally but its similar rating to my sleeping bag (S2S Trek 3) and I figure a quilt can be opened etc to manage temp if its too hot easier than a sleeping bag. I can't see any reason to go lower as I doubt I will be using it in colder than that anytime soon and can always add clothing etc if required on the odd occasion.

Secondly I am a little unsure about the 10D vs 20D. I'm leaning towards the 10D with 20D stripes top and bottom as EE have mentioned that the 20D is more water resistant but less breathable so probably less desirable when using in a tent etc and mainly beneficial if sleeping outside under a tarp or in a hammock (I am unlikely to be using a tarp or hammock anytime soon so will generally always be in a tent or swag). Is the 10D fairly strudy and hard wearing enough and can anyone comment on the breathability of either?

Anyone with one care to comment on colour choice also, I'm thinking Black outer with charcoal inner at this stage just to be boring as that should stay looking cleaner etc that way. My current sleeping bag is black also and I like the look of that...

How do people find sleeping directly on the mat surface as apposed to sleeping on a sleeping bag - wasn't sure if I would need a sort of sheet or similar to cover the mat?

Lastly with size I am 174cms tall and 70-75kgs but sleep on my side and toss and turn a lot (use an exped downmat 9LW). I'm thinking of getting a regular length/wide width quilt. Any thoughts on size.Generally I would have a quilt up around my neck but not covering my head.

Any info would be great. I have read enough to know the product is good quality and the company is excellent just trying to narrow down the specifics of the quilt...

Thanks in advance

Mick

[Strider]

I have a 20F and its about the right temp for me. I start feeling the cold just above 0C, wearing only briefs, though this leaves the possibility for layering and also isn't too hot at the other end of the scale. I went for charcoal outer and black inner - just for something different.

I am 167cm and got the regular length (6'), wide width. This is a good fit for me and allows a bit extra to snuggle into if needed. I got the wife to convert a silk sleeping bag liner into a fitted sheet/cover for my Downmat and its nice and soft against the skin. I have the 10D and its great to the touch.

[Ellobuddha]

Micki,

I wnet with the 0 f and with the 20d outer, 10 inner.

I went for a walk/fish to cascade hut at Kozi last night. It was going from rain to sleet to snow and back to rain. I was in my duomid which is a fair bit colder than my other tents.

I was if anything, too warm in the bag with a tyvek (breathable kind) bivy. I used the bivy as the rain was swirling around and didnt want to get the quilt wet ( still earning to manage duomid and paranoid about looking after quilt) in the end all was good. I was super warm with a hood on and duomid was brilliant in what could only be described as wet sh1tty conditions.

You sound on the right track to me as you can layer up if needed for colder. I had a restless night due to noisy conditions and as such was tossing and turning. The quilt allowed me to roll around with no twisting whatsoever. I wouldve been losing it in a mummy bag.

[Ellobuddha]

Micki,

I went with the 0 f and with the 20d outer, 10 inner.

I went for a walk/fish to cascade hut at Kozi last night. It was going from rain to sleet to snow and back to rain. I was in my duomid which is a fair bit colder than my other tents.

I was if anything, too warm in the bag with a tyvek (breathable kind) bivy. I used the bivy as the rain was swirling around and didnt want to get the quilt wet ( still earning to manage duomid and paranoid about looking after quilt) in the end all was good. I would've opened the toebox and would've been perfectly comfortable if it wasn't for the angled rain concerns. I was super warm with a hood on and duomid was brilliant in what could only be described as wet sh1tty conditions.

You sound on the right track to me as you can layer up if needed for colder. I had a restless night due to noisy conditions and as such was tossing and turning. The quilt allowed me to roll around with no twisting whatsoever. I wouldve been losing it in a mummy bag.

[jiggen]

Hi I was wondering if anyone uses an EE quilt in a couples configuration? Is the extra wide good enough for a couple? Thanks for the help

[Strider]

The problem with having two people under one quilt will always be the big air gap in the middle. That said, two people sleeping close together would probably fit under my Wide width.

[Mickl]

Ellobuddha,

how do you find the 20D material breathes? I'm pretty sure the 20F should be ok temp wise as its similar rating to my currect bag S2S Trek 3 and I'm usually too hot in that when its opened up. I'm just not sure I need the extra waterproofness as I'm always likely to be in a tent/swag but if it still breathes well I'd probably get it as I'd rather have it and not need it compared to not having it and needing it.... What was the temp that you were using it in last night?

Jiggen if its not wide enough you will just have too sleep on top of one and other....

Mick

[Ellobuddha]

Ive only slept in it two night in total so far.

The other night Im guessing was probably only down to about 5 degrees but had some decent wind so the chill factor would've been somewhere well less. It was 0 at Thredbo top station but thats higher (400mtrs?) We had light snow early in the night which just melted on hitting the ground. As I said, i was overdone with the 0 quilt by far.

The 20d outer seems fine breathing wise. I was in a tyvek 1443 bivy and constantly put my hand down between the quilt outer and bivy to check for moisture. There was some outside the bivy but none inside. The only bit of dampness on the quilt was at the toebox. It was minimal and dried in 10 minutes of sun. Im pretty sure this occurred from sliding down a bit on my pad and the end of bivy and quilt being in contact with wall of mid/ground as I woke on my stomach with my feet off the end of the mat

[Giddy_up]

Ellobuddha, do you think that 0F is going to be to warm for OZ?. Thats -17c and with a bivyi might be closer to -20c. Reason I ask is I'm looking at winter bags and quilts and I thought something around 10F to 15F or -9c to -12c would have been sufficient for winter, but I am a warmer sleeper. I'm keen to know your thoughts to help with my decision making.

Thanks.

[icefest]

Ellobuddha, do you think that 0F is going to be to warm for OZ?. Thats -17c and with a bivyi might be closer to -20c. Reason I ask is I'm looking at winter bags and quilts and I thought something around 10F to 15F or -9c to -12c would have been sufficient for winter, but I am a warmer sleeper. I'm keen to know your thoughts to help with my decision making.

Thanks.

I spent on very cold night on Mt Bogong in a Hilleberg Tent with a -9°C/15°F sleeping bag. If you're planning on camping high in winter get a bag thats warmer than that.

[Giddy_up]

Thanks icefest, that is my plan at the moment. I want to do a bit of snow shoeing this winter, but its always hard to gauge what temp rating is actually required to have a comfortable nights rest up high. When you look at BOM data for temperatures around a given area, i.e. Falls Creek, the numbers really don't reflect what people out there actually experience.